Smart, Yaris, and Fit VS C Class, Camry, and Accord
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now thats much more useful than showing crashes and going ooo look clearly the bigger car did better. Although I didnt like how they used various vehicles of different weights without using a fixed standard for comparison. Sorta like evaluating an accord vs a Ford Explorer, a camry vs an H2 and a mercedes vs a big rig and then saying ooo look the accord does the best vs something larger.
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I think the reason they picked the comparos they did was to make them in the same mfr on the assumption that there might be better performance expected against siblings. As for which ones to pick making a relevant test, that is open to debate. No one in a Smart has any guarantee that that offset front ender will be against a C Class and not an H1. Ihaven't much of a clue how you make it fair or representative of the real world. I think they wanted to get roughly the range of weight that was representative of the majority of vehicles out there, hence the Camry, Accord, and C Class.
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Hmm.. the smart had the A-pillars nearly intact (just a slight crease) but the Yaris sedan's A-Pillar is just abolished! Also what's notable is that the smart's roof did not shatter. It's the weber plastic panoramic roof so at least we know it's strong enough if it should roll over.
The smart bounces cause it's so light.
The smart bounces cause it's so light.
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Well crash tests are done at 35mph at a non moving object, this was done with both traveling at 40mph at each other, outcomes are going to look really different than other crash tests
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Hmm.. the smart had the A-pillars nearly intact (just a slight crease) but the Yaris sedan's A-Pillar is just abolished! Also what's notable is that the smart's roof did not shatter. It's the weber plastic panoramic roof so at least we know it's strong enough if it should roll over.
The smart bounces cause it's so light.
The smart bounces cause it's so light.
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I think the reason they picked the comparos they did was to make them in the same mfr on the assumption that there might be better performance expected against siblings. As for which ones to pick making a relevant test, that is open to debate. No one in a Smart has any guarantee that that offset front ender will be against a C Class and not an H1. Ihaven't much of a clue how you make it fair or representative of the real world. I think they wanted to get roughly the range of weight that was representative of the majority of vehicles out there, hence the Camry, Accord, and C Class.
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Anyone have any ideas as to why didn't they test hybrids like the Prius and Insight against the Camry and Accord? The hybrids are basically equivalent to economy hatchbacks with a fancier powertrain. The new Prius does weigh a lot more, though.
And why no US brand econocars tested?
And why no US brand econocars tested?
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I like econo hatches because they're useful while being sporty. I don't want to haul stuff in my metrosexual ES350. Ideally, I'd like a van to haul with and also a pure sports car, but 3 vehicles is beyond my idea of being reasonable.
So I'm not forced to buy small cars out of financial constraint, but I'm also beyond buying a car for looks and enviro-credits. Some of them do look cute, though. It's a bonus.
So I'm not forced to buy small cars out of financial constraint, but I'm also beyond buying a car for looks and enviro-credits. Some of them do look cute, though. It's a bonus.
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Gotta love Fox Noise for interjecting the white house into these results.
But I agree with most of the comments here. The Fit gets marginally worse mileage than it's Civic counterpart. The Smart's mileage figures leave much to be desired. Go get a Prius/Insight/Civic hybrid/Jetta TDI if all you want to see 50mpg on the cluster, but don't try and justify your purchase of a small death trap on MPG!
But I agree with most of the comments here. The Fit gets marginally worse mileage than it's Civic counterpart. The Smart's mileage figures leave much to be desired. Go get a Prius/Insight/Civic hybrid/Jetta TDI if all you want to see 50mpg on the cluster, but don't try and justify your purchase of a small death trap on MPG!
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Anyone have any ideas as to why didn't they test hybrids like the Prius and Insight against the Camry and Accord? The hybrids are basically equivalent to economy hatchbacks with a fancier powertrain. The new Prius does weigh a lot more, though.
And why no US brand econocars tested?
And why no US brand econocars tested?
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Note to Toyota engineers: stop listening to Paramore in the crash test cell. I know crushcrushcrush is a catchy song but when a car crushcrushcrushes the wrong way bad things happen.
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