Some Luxury Buyers Downshift to Hyundai Genesis
04-22-09, 07:11 AM
#106
Lexus Test Driver
[QUOTE=IS-SV;4456161]Yeah, but you can say the same thing about the Genesis. Its cheaper to buy, but you get less back when you sell.
Financially strong 7-series and S-class buyers weren't cross-shopping VW and still are not today.
04-22-09, 08:17 AM
#107
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Actually, in Europe and Asia - brand image doesn't matter as much - which is why Infiniti and Acura don't exist in Japan, as well as Lexus until a few years ago and why Mercedes sells the econobox A and B Classes alongside the S Class (as well as the E Class being a popular taxi vehicle).
Elsewhere in Asia, particularly S.E. Asia, where I and some of my friends are originally from, they are the worst brand wh0res in the world. Many buy luxury cars there for the name plate alone, & they WANT to buy them BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE EXPENSIVE.
In Europe, even though the A and B class are econoboxes, they are still regarded as more upscale than their counterparts from other brands, & they NEED to build small cars there because of the demand in that market, which is quite different from USA.
04-22-09, 09:30 AM
#108
Lexus Fanatic
[QUOTE=The G Man;4458464]Not really, unless your are saying that all cars depreciate. That's still to be determined (there is no history so far). And it's not trying to sell for $65K+.
04-22-09, 10:01 AM
#109
Actually 1SICK is right, you are only talking about the Japan home market where they make these Japanese cars & have a tradition there.
Elsewhere in Asia, particularly S.E. Asia, where I and some of my friends are originally from, they are the worst brand wh0res in the world. Many buy luxury cars there for the name plate alone, & they WANT to buy them BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE EXPENSIVE.
In Europe, even though the A and B class are econoboxes, they are still regarded as more upscale than their counterparts from other brands, & they NEED to build small cars there because of the demand in that market, which is quite different from USA.
Elsewhere in Asia, particularly S.E. Asia, where I and some of my friends are originally from, they are the worst brand wh0res in the world. Many buy luxury cars there for the name plate alone, & they WANT to buy them BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE EXPENSIVE.
In Europe, even though the A and B class are econoboxes, they are still regarded as more upscale than their counterparts from other brands, & they NEED to build small cars there because of the demand in that market, which is quite different from USA.
especially my wife
04-22-09, 12:56 PM
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The difference in price btwn a 2006 V-12 Phaeton and a 2006 760i was only about $10k and the difference in price for the V-8 versions was considerably less (esp. in comparison to the A8).
Actually 1SICK is right, you are only talking about the Japan home market where they make these Japanese cars & have a tradition there.
Elsewhere in Asia, particularly S.E. Asia, where I and some of my friends are originally from, they are the worst brand wh0res in the world. Many buy luxury cars there for the name plate alone, & they WANT to buy them BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE EXPENSIVE.
Elsewhere in Asia, particularly S.E. Asia, where I and some of my friends are originally from, they are the worst brand wh0res in the world. Many buy luxury cars there for the name plate alone, & they WANT to buy them BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE EXPENSIVE.
As for SE Asia, it's not like any of those countries have an auto manufacturer that produces "luxury" models.
My point isn't that the Asian market doesn't like BMWs and Mercedes (who doesn't?), but rather that people in Japan and SKorea have no problem driving a "luxury" car from Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Hyundai, Samsung, etc. since they are seen as "full-line" manufacturers (think of them as GM w/o the sub-brands of Caddy, Buick, Chevy, etc.).
Really, Asians are no more/no less "materialistic" than any other people.
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04-22-09, 01:10 PM
#112
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04-22-09, 03:23 PM
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Actually 1SICK is right, you are only talking about the Japan home market where they make these Japanese cars & have a tradition there.
Elsewhere in Asia, particularly S.E. Asia, where I and some of my friends are originally from, they are the worst brand wh0res in the world. Many buy luxury cars there for the name plate alone, & they WANT to buy them BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE EXPENSIVE.
In Europe, even though the A and B class are econoboxes, they are still regarded as more upscale than their counterparts from other brands, & they NEED to build small cars there because of the demand in that market, which is quite different from USA.
Elsewhere in Asia, particularly S.E. Asia, where I and some of my friends are originally from, they are the worst brand wh0res in the world. Many buy luxury cars there for the name plate alone, & they WANT to buy them BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE EXPENSIVE.
In Europe, even though the A and B class are econoboxes, they are still regarded as more upscale than their counterparts from other brands, & they NEED to build small cars there because of the demand in that market, which is quite different from USA.
The same is going on in Russia.
Back to Asia, lets not forget they get long wheelbase 5/A6 etc there as well to "fit" that class from a prestige/price standpoint.
04-23-09, 09:28 AM
#119
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in my small town i see one once a week at least, which is surprising. maybe it's the same one. 
but i ALWAYS think "that looks GREAT" when it's headed toward me.
but i ALWAYS think "that looks GREAT" when it's headed toward me.
04-23-09, 10:10 AM
#120
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That would be interesting to know. JD Power used to have demographic info for most models on their web site, but I don't think it's there any more.