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Old 04-23-09, 09:28 PM
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Default First Drive: 2010 Lambo Murcielago LP670-4 SV






What is it?

You are looking at the ultimate version of one of the world’s ultimate supercars, essentially a lighter, faster, more mental version of the already deeply unhinged Murcielago LP640. A proper wild monster it is, too.

Lamborghini’s mission statement over the next few years is to make cars that are lighter, simpler and more faithful to the original core philosophy, so while the styling and performance of the SV are all extremely well and good, what’s most impressive of all about this car is how little it weighs considering how big it is.

Lambo’s engineers looked at every area of the SV to work out how they could shave kilograms, and in the engine bay alone they managed to remove 33kg, mainly by fitting a smaller exhaust and redesigning various aspects of the transmission.

The key thing is, this is where Lamborghini is heading in years to come. Removing weight and improving efficiency – and at the same time reducing emissions – is what will keep the cars relevant and desirable in the future, claim the thinkers at Sant Agata. It’s a simple idea but one that’s extremely hard to disagree with.

Headline stats are not hard to come by with the SV. It weighs 100kg less than the LP640, its V12 engine develops another 29bhp, taking it to 663bhp at 8000rpm in total (a McLaren F1 had 'just' 627bhp when it rewrote the supercar rulebook 15 years ago). Its bodyshell and suspension have also been extensively reworked to help it produce more grip, both mechanically and aerodynamically. It costs, wait for it, a cool 300,000 euros – approximately £275,000 at today’s exchange rate.

What’s it like?

According to Lamborghini the SV will hit 62mph in 3.2sec and 100mph in under seven seconds, going on to reach a top speed of 212mph if you can find the space and have the required size undercarriage to keep your foot planted as the thing starts to oscillate beyond 200mph. I bailed out at just over 206mph, but then the car I drove didn’t have quite the right rear wing fitted for all-out assaults on the sound barrier.

Instead it had what Lamborghini calls the new ‘Aeropack wing’ which dramatically improves high speed stability but also pinches the top speed to a piffling 209mph. Either way, the mighty new SV is genuinely as quick and as barking to drive as it is to look at. It could even be the most exciting supercar this particular author has ever driven, although maybe – just possibly – it’s still not quite up there with the Ferrari F40. Which is not exactly poor company to be keeping.

What defines the SV dynamically is its more extreme personality, and in the end that’s basically what you’re paying for; a more committed experience in every dimension compared with the not exactly boring LP640.

Just 350 will be made by the factory at Sant Agata, the vast majority of which will go to the United States. Only a handful will make it to the UK.

On the road it feels very big, very fast, very intimidating and very special. The noise is quite nuts, even at low speeds, while the ride isn’t exactly what you’d call smooth. It feels like a car that’s been released into the world, having driven straight out of the pit complex at Le Mans.

Having said that, the lack of weight does make a huge and very positive difference to its responses, be that on road or track. It feels agile and alert in a way that the regular LP640 could never replicate. And the steering and brakes are just delicious, as good as anything you’ll ever come across in a road car.

Should I buy one?

For 350 very lucky people the SV is going to satisfy on a level that’s not available from many other car makers, not at any price. And the great thing is, this is just the beginning of a brave new era at Lamborghini.

It’s a fantastically extreme car for amazingly rich and rare occasions – right now there is nothing else quite like it. If this is the way forward for Lamborghini, the future looks very bright indeed. And that’s before you even mention the soundtrack.
Steve Sutcliffe












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its bad ***, but I could build an STI that could dust it. I know these cars have insane power, but they also weigh 2 tons
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Originally Posted by I8ABMR
its bad ***, but I could build an STI that could dust it. I know these cars have insane power, but they also weigh 2 tons
I second that.

But you guys gotta admit, this car is a BEEEEEEEEEAST. (Looks, AND performance.) , wish i was one of the 350 (luck bastards.)
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I think my neighbor has one on order to complement his Scuderia he just bought since his Murc is getting prepped for sale...

Would be a nice change of "notes" I hope
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^^^drrrroooooooooooooooooool.
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http://www.autoblog.com/2009/04/20/l...in-the-states/

Autoblog talks of the first LP670 to come to the US. It came to Cars and Coffee this past weekend in Irvine CA, but I didn't get a chance to see it
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* 661-hp 6.5-liter V12
* 3,450 pounds (220 pounds lighter)
* 0-60 mph in 3.0 seconds
* $457,500



Just as when we drove the Gallardo Superleggera back in April 2007 at a track outside of Milan, Italy, this 2010 Lamborghini Murciélago LP670-4 SuperVeloce has us a-twitter before we even get in to put it through its paces. All you need to do is look at this exercise in aesthetics and, knowing that all recent Lamborghinis deliver on their looks, the endorphin rush that awaits us is vividly anticipated.

At 661 horsepower, we're up by 30 hp from the 631 hp of the stock Murciélago LP640, while torque remains the same at 487 pound-feet, peaking at 6,500 rpm from the naturally aspirated 6,496cc V12 mounted rear amidships. (The LP stands for "Longitudinale Posteriore," meaning the engine is mounted longitudinally and in back.) Lamborghini engineers estimate that acceleration to 60 mph is quicker by 0.2 of a second to 3 seconds flat. Top speed can be as high as 212 mph if you specify the standard rear wing versus this galactic AeroPack wing that allows just 209 mph.

At the moment, we're itching to drive the flatlands around company HQ in this 2010 Lamborghini Murciélago LP670-4 SuperVeloce painted in Arancio Atlas (Atlas Orange).

Pretty Light for a V12
The guys could have just added power and a wing and left it at that like in the old days, but the composites experts at Lamborghini also had their hands in the SuperVeloce. Overall weight drops by 220 pounds to 3,450 pounds (dry). This is just 5.2 pounds per horse, which is relatively nuts.

From the chassis and body we lose 73 pounds, and the composites work begins with a larger front splitter mounted slightly farther forward. Then comes the flat underbody panel in carbon composite, and the two front-quarter panels and larger rear-quarter panels are made with a much-lightened carbon-plastic resin. The rear engine cover (its appearance inspired by the limited-edition 2008 Reventón), has a surround made from carbon fiber while the transparent hexagonal panels are made from a light polycarbonate plastic used in racing. That humungous AeroPack rear wing (71 inches wide and with an airfoil that's 11 inches deep) is pure carbon fiber and stands on two 7-inch stanchions that are carbon fiber as well.

The V12 powertrain then does its bit in the weight reduction department by shedding 73 pounds. Some 15 pounds of this comes from the revised Marelli/Graziano single-clutch automated manual transmission, while much of the remaining 58 pounds comes from an utterly stunning new exhaust system. The exhaust's two end pipes terminate in a single, showcar-style rhomboid megatip coated in gray ceramics for heat protection (oh, had you only been with us to hear the sound and fury at wide-open throttle).

Finally, the remaining 74 pounds of added lightness have come out of the passenger cabin. The inner door panels and metal tunnel cover are now made from lacquered carbon fiber, and a bunch of weight has been saved by ditching the napa leather upholstery and substituting wonderfully comfy and grippy artificial suede. The single-piece performance seats also have carbon-fiber frames, but sadly the U.S. can't get the four-point seatbelts we were using all day in Italy.

Add a Dash of Stiff
Another very noticeable touch in the 2010 Lamborghini LP 670-4 SuperVeloce is something unseen. The engineers have used a carbon-resin coating at stress points in the chassis of high-tensile steel tubes, improving structural rigidity by 12 percent. It's particularly evident when we hammer the throttle or crank the small-diameter steering wheel through countryside chicanes.

And though overall the SV's suspension does not change at all, the fact that so many other things are affecting its behavior makes the damping setup feel even better suited to this high-performance application. So when it's working with the bodywork's combination of aerodynamic downforce and ground effects at speeds of 75 mph and higher, the SuperVeloce feels fairly painted to the pavement.

Strapping In
We only rammed our forehead into the top of the door jambs and into the bottom of the opened scissor doors a dozen times or so during our full-day foray across a hot Emilia-Romagna region, so the Murciélago's reputation for discomfort at a price remains reassuringly intact. It's all very Italian and we'd get angry, we think, if the door scheme changed to be more like the Gallardo/Audi R8 people's car.

The single-piece seats with their very pronounced bolsters adjust only fore and aft — and do so manually — but the steering wheel of the Murc has a famously wide range of up-down and fore-aft adjustability, so it's easy to get our cockpit just the way we need it prior to takeoff. Once there, the four-point harness really socks us in tight and makes it impossible to reach anything but the steering wheel and vital controls. This is one more reason why Lamborghini should use a start button, as we could barely reach the key fob once sutured in place.

After meandering our way through the various levels of security clearance to deactivate the Lamborghini's car alarms and reactivate the engine, we finally get ignition. The starter takes a few seconds of wind-up and then comes the flare of 12 cylinders roaring to life with the throaty enthusiasm of a chain smoker. Once under way, we know drama is happening out back, but, as with any closed car with a huge backyard, we only know the extent of the havoc from the looks on the faces of people on the sidewalk. Apparently the SuperVeloce's new lightweight pipes give new meaning to the term "afterburner."

SuperSteady, Too
While slinging along at around 120-150 mph on some barren rural roads, what comes through from the SuperVeloce is an added steadiness that is quite welcome. The larger front intakes and exaggerated splitter do wonders in this regard, and also cool the standard 15-inch carbon-ceramic brake discs with six-pot calipers. There's also a new vent over the wheelwells to extract heat from the brakes. Needless to say, all this was pretty reassuring as we indulged in late-braking maneuvers all through the hot day.

Switching off the traction control system and poking the Corsa button that quickens gearchanges from the six-speed automated manual transmission to one-tenth of a second, we had opportunities to reach even hairier limits with this big baby. With a car this size, your reflexes have to be lightning fast to pull it off, so we chose to keep the stability control engaged until we can test the SuperVeloce on a closed circuit. Because she's a handful, much as we expected (and just as customers prefer).

The Murc has a major set of Pirelli P Zero Corsa tires — 245/35ZR18 front, 335/30ZR18 rear — on forged wheels with a double five-spoke design called "Ares." Working together with the all-wheel-drive system (the torque proportion is 25 percent front/75 percent rear), this assures an instantaneous, sure-footed hookup on all road surfaces.

Always a Market
Some 350 examples of the 2010 Lamborghini Murciélago LP670-4 SuperVeloce will be built between now and early 2010, and the U.S. models should start touching down here by late July. Though yet to be determined, Lamborghini says pricing should begin at around $457,500, or a little more than $100K above the Murciélago LP640 coupe, and one-third the price of last year's pre-economic-crisis Reventón.

Besides the choice between the standard and AeroPack mega wing, customers can also request the six-speed manual shifter in lieu of the wildly popular e-gear automated shifting with its carbon-fiber shift paddles.

The last time Lamborghini cranked out a car with an SV badge was in 1999, when the Diablo SV was launched back in the days of pre-Audi ownership. Traditionally an SV version signals the final hurrah before one generation ends and the next is launched, so we'll wait to see what Lamborghini shows us this year or next. Stay tuned for a totally new Murciélago design for 2011.






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Over 450K base price? It's a stunning piece of engineering, but that is expensive, even for a Lambo. This makes the LF-A's rumoured price look like a bargain.
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Originally Posted by TRDFantasy
Over 450K base price? It's a stunning piece of engineering, but that is expensive, even for a Lambo. This makes the LF-A's rumoured price look like a bargain.
with u on that one
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Originally Posted by TRDFantasy
Over 450K base price? It's a stunning piece of engineering, but that is expensive, even for a Lambo. This makes the LF-A's rumoured price look like a bargain.
That's like saying this car's sticker makes a Gallardo look like a bargain.
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Originally Posted by knihc2008
That's like saying this car's sticker makes a Gallardo look like a bargain.
I'm quite sure the LF-A will be competing more with the Murcielago, Carrera GT, and Enzo class of cars than the Gallardo, 997 Turbo, GT-R, or F-430 class of cars.

This thing costs roughly 100K more than a regular LP640. So even that looks like a bit of a bargain since the performance difference between the two is negligible. You're paying mostly for exclusivity here.
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its bad ***, but I could build an STI that could dust it. I know these cars have insane power, but they also weigh 2 tons
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But you guys gotta admit, this car is a BEEEEEEEEEAST. (Looks, AND performance.) , wish i was one of the 350 (luck bastards.)
Are you guys serious? Comparing this SV to "building a Suburu"? This is bespoke, its fabulous, nothing else looks like it. It is to be celebrated!
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Over 450K base price? It's a stunning piece of engineering, but that is expensive, even for a Lambo. This makes the LF-A's rumoured price look like a bargain.
Clearly at this price point people line up to buy these cars. Nothing here is overpriced. People in this price range don't chose one of these cars, they chose ALL of these cars.

I think the return of the SV is fantastic. Great job Lambo!
 
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This car is a work of art and an engineering achievement. I mean that there are cars that can be made faster.... not as exclusive or amazing, but just as quick.

I ave to admit I am amazed at how light the car was. I was under the impression that the car weighed as much as the old murcielago . That kind of power in a car that weighs about the same as an entry level sports sedan is insane
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oh god i need a cold shower
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