next-gen Hyundai Sonata (revealed)
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If it gets a turbo 4 with at least 240-250HP, then it wouldn't be a bad replacement for a V6 at all.
We shall see what Hyundai offers.
We shall see what Hyundai offers.
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Looks like dropping the V6 might have been because of a Turbo 4.
http://blogs.edmunds.com/straightlin...4l-engine.html
http://blogs.edmunds.com/straightlin...4l-engine.html
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Just a few days ago we saw the first images of the all-new Hyundai Sonata as it was introduced in South Korea. The Korean press release only mentioned two powertrain options, a 2.0-liter four cylinder and a 2.4-liter direct-injected four. No reference was made to a V6 such as the one offered in the current-generation Sonata. Ward's reports that they have been told even the North American-market Sonata will go four-cylinder only.
The current Sonata V6 only accounts for just 15 percent of total sales, and with the DI engine becoming standard in the new model, the larger engine likely be even less popular. We checked with Hyundai spokesman Dan Bedore, who responded "We have officially declined to comment further on that report." Bedore did tell us that further announcements would be coming at either the Los Angeles or Detroit Auto Show when the US model is revealed. The one thing we do know for sure is that a Sonata hybrid is coming later in 2010.
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They wouldn't have to cut the price... a 2010 Sonata 4-cyl limited with every available option (including nav and premium paint) is still under 27k with destination.
I've also noticed sometimes manufacturers put extra effort into keeping prices low for new model introductions.
They like it when reviewers and consumers are amazed at how much more car they can get for little or no increase in sticker price from the previous generation.
Then after everyone's done raving about the value of the Sonata, they'll bump the price up every year for the next few years while nobody's paying attention anymore.
I've also noticed sometimes manufacturers put extra effort into keeping prices low for new model introductions.
They like it when reviewers and consumers are amazed at how much more car they can get for little or no increase in sticker price from the previous generation.
Then after everyone's done raving about the value of the Sonata, they'll bump the price up every year for the next few years while nobody's paying attention anymore.
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Its all part of growing too fast. Hyundai will make mistakes, but as someone once said, a mistake is not a mistake if you learn from it. No V6 in the Sonata is a mistake, raising the price of the Sonata so high is a mistake and Not having a Luxury division is another mistake. In some way, Hyundai is getting somewhat arrogant. It seems like they are not listening to their customers as much as they use to.
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Its all part of growing too fast. Hyundai will make mistakes, but as someone once said, a mistake is not a mistake if you learn from it. No V6 in the Sonata is a mistake, raising the price of the Sonata so high is a mistake and Not having a Luxury division is another mistake. In some way, Hyundai is getting somewhat arrogant. It seems like they are not listening to their customers as much as they use to.
How about the styling of the new Sonata? Did current Hyundai customers and Sonata owners ask for radical styling?
Did Hyundai do very comprehensive and thorough research and testing to gauge the reaction of consumers regarding some of these product decisions?
I bet the answer to most of those questions is no.
Hyundai, like many Korean companies, is simply doing what they feel is right. Hyundai does not go out of their way to listen to what the customer wants. The poor dealership experience you get with Hyundai is an example. Also in terms of owner loyalty, Hyundai has never ranked at the top either.
Also in terms of the turbo 4 outclassing the V6 competition, let's not jump to conclusions. V6 engines, by design, are more silky and smooth than a 4 cylinder, turbo or not.
Silky and smooth characteristics are important to have in the midsize sedan segment. If this turbo 4 engine shares some of the flaws that the Genesis 2.0T engine has, then it won't be outclassing anything.
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this car could re-write the books on family sedan, although the fusion can compete. the current accord and camry cannot, but spectacular sales for those continue because they're trusted models with huge pipelines and loyal customers.
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For years, Hyundai customers, stuck with lemons and cars with shoddy workmanship, asked for better quality. It took until about 10 years ago for Hyundai's efforts to improve quality to show, but when it did, they delivered it in spades...the company, for the money, now does some of the most carefully-built cars available today.
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Geneisis is just a attempt by Hyundai to get into the luxury car market. It was not design to repond to customer complain as much as it was to expand their market. Hyundai have done everything right so far, but lately they are starting to show sign of growing pain. Their mission have been detour if you will. They need to re-foucs and remember the formula that got them where they are today and go back to it.
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The new Sonata should do well and keep the other guys on their toes but it is really hard to have a true game changer these days.
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Gotta love the new Sonata!!! Gives everyone more options when choosing a camry,accord,altima. Hyundai just wants more market share, that's all.
Looking at all the NEW offerings. They are gonna get it! I'm really excited for Hyundai's future. I just wish to god they would sure up the dealership experience (SALES & SERVICE) to match the upgrade in their cars.
I currently own a 07 Camry (company car) & it has been great -Good value & reliable. If I had to buy another car for this purpose.
It would be the new Hyundai SONATA!!!
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I am no longer surprised that Hyundai is moving this fast with the development of their cars.
Looking at all the NEW offerings. They are gonna get it! I'm really excited for Hyundai's future. I just wish to god they would sure up the dealership experience (SALES & SERVICE) to match the upgrade in their cars.
I currently own a 07 Camry (company car) & it has been great -Good value & reliable. If I had to buy another car for this purpose.
It would be the new Hyundai SONATA!!!
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I am no longer surprised that Hyundai is moving this fast with the development of their cars.
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I don't know if I particularly like the exterior of this car. The front end looks kind of like a buck-toothed ES 330 but the back end is alright. The interior seems to be the most inviting part of the entire design but I don't think it's particularly AMAZING or ground-breaking like everyone else seems to.
Even though the interior drives me nuts, it's still hard to disagree that this is the best looking family sedan, IMO:
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...and yes, I feel weird saying that about a Camry.
Even though the interior drives me nuts, it's still hard to disagree that this is the best looking family sedan, IMO:
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...and yes, I feel weird saying that about a Camry.
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Sonata is not going to be a gamer changer, its a nice sedan but it lacks value. Thats where Hyundai have excel in the pass. Hack, if I can buy a Camry or a Hyundai for the same price, its a no brainer.
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Just a few days ago we saw the first images of the all-new Hyundai Sonata as it was introduced in South Korea. The Korean press release only mentioned two powertrain options, a 2.0-liter four cylinder and a 2.4-liter direct-injected four. No reference was made to a V6 such as the one offered in the current-generation Sonata. Ward's reports that they have been told even the North American-market Sonata will go four-cylinder only.
The current Sonata V6 only accounts for just 15 percent of total sales, and with the DI engine becoming standard in the new model, the larger engine likely be even less popular. We checked with Hyundai spokesman Dan Bedore, who responded "We have officially declined to comment further on that report." Bedore did tell us that further announcements would be coming at either the Los Angeles or Detroit Auto Show when the US model is revealed. The one thing we do know for sure is that a Sonata hybrid is coming later in 2010.
![](http://www.hyundaibuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/yf_sonata_1.jpg)
Just a few days ago we saw the first images of the all-new Hyundai Sonata as it was introduced in South Korea. The Korean press release only mentioned two powertrain options, a 2.0-liter four cylinder and a 2.4-liter direct-injected four. No reference was made to a V6 such as the one offered in the current-generation Sonata. Ward's reports that they have been told even the North American-market Sonata will go four-cylinder only.
The current Sonata V6 only accounts for just 15 percent of total sales, and with the DI engine becoming standard in the new model, the larger engine likely be even less popular. We checked with Hyundai spokesman Dan Bedore, who responded "We have officially declined to comment further on that report." Bedore did tell us that further announcements would be coming at either the Los Angeles or Detroit Auto Show when the US model is revealed. The one thing we do know for sure is that a Sonata hybrid is coming later in 2010.
WAIT!!! Are some saying that this does NOT look better than the Camry??
IF anything I wonder if the styling being so elegant will draw Genesis buyers downward
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Regarding Camry and Accord. There will still be "diehards" who will stay with those vehicles no matter what. I believe Hyundai will make strides but agree that there will be some growing pains as more mature buyers see them as a Toyota competitor..
Black Sonata FTW!!!
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They will need to offer a V-6. If they don't, it will be seen as a level below those cars that do offer a V-6, like Acura and the RL and not offering a V-8.
They BETTER bring a V-6, even if its only 10% of sales.
They BETTER bring a V-6, even if its only 10% of sales.