next-gen Hyundai Sonata (revealed)
#361
Lexus Fanatic
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Perhaps (?) that is how that got Hyundai's quality up (recent Sonatas are a good example). Sometimes managers have to make it clear that sloppiness, both in design and manufacturing, is not an option. Hyundai went that sloppiness route up until the late 1990's, and the result was a disaster.
![mmarshall is offline](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#362
Lexus Fanatic
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: A better place
Posts: 7,285
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Perhaps (?) that is how that got Hyundai's quality up (recent Sonatas are a good example). Sometimes managers have to make it clear that sloppiness, both in design and manufacturing, is not an option. Hyundai went that sloppiness route up until the late 1990's, and the result was a disaster.
![TRDFantasy is offline](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#363
Guest
Posts: n/a
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Which is fine to me, they needed whipping into shape
(past owner of a POS Hyundai here)
![Big Grin](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
#364
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (3)
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
No more of a feat than Ford's 355 HP EcoBoost V6. The Nismo's V6, according to Nissan specs, despite the 350 HP, has only 276 Ft-lbs. of torque....the EcoBoost, some 355-360 Ft-lbs.
http://www.nissanusa.com/zcoupe/
http://www.nissanusa.com/zcoupe/
![Och is offline](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#365
Lexus Fanatic
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Maybe slightly off-topic, but, don't forget, Mike.....one of those "POS" Hyundai Scoupes (the Scoupe, of course, was a 2-door Excel Coupe) managed to win the 1992 Pikes' Peak Hill Climb....a prestigious race, and no small feat.
![mmarshall is offline](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#367
Lexus Fanatic
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I don't remember that many CL discussions of this particular subject, but I'll take your word for it.
![mmarshall is offline](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#369
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Well what do you know, the 2011 Sonata just got a Top Safety Pick designation from IIHS.
http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com...P-SAFETY-PICK/
http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com...P-SAFETY-PICK/
![ConceptVBS is offline](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#370
Lexus Fanatic
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: A better place
Posts: 7,285
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Well what do you know, the 2011 Sonata just got a Top Safety Pick designation from IIHS.
http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com...P-SAFETY-PICK/
http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com...P-SAFETY-PICK/
![TRDFantasy is offline](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#371
Lexus Fanatic
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
They just arrived at one of the SJ dealers recently so I took another closer look yesterday afternoon. Looked nice for the money (this was a base model at just of $20K MSRP) and it had plenty of interior room in both front and back seats.
![IS-SV is offline](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#372
![Exclamation](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon4.gif)
With the first units of its 2011 Sonata sedan having just begun hitting dealers, Hyundai is in the unfortunate position of having to issue a stop-sale on its most hotly anticipated new model in some time. According to Hyundai, an estimated 5,000 Sonatas may have a defective front door latch that could require replacement:
The [Sonata's] front doors incorporate a convenience feature that allows a locked door to be unlocked and opened by pulling the inside door release handle without first unlocking the door with the inside door lock switch. If a front inside door lock switch is held in the locked position while the inside door handle is pulled to open the door, the door latch may malfunction. If this occurs, the inside door handle will not return to its normal, stowed position and the door latch will remain in the unlatched position when attempting to close the door.
Because the two rear doors do not incorporate the automatic unlock pull-handle-to-open convenience feature, they are not affected by this issue, but both driver and passenger front door mechanisms could be in need of repair. Spokesperson Miles Johnson tells Autoblog that Hyundai will be working with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration to recall vehicles that are already in customer hands (roughly 1,300 units have been sold since the first examples hit dealerships over the past couple of weeks), and the company will begin shipping replacement latches to its 790 dealers tomorrow in order to fix both customer and dealer stock Sonatas as soon as possible. Once the new latches are installed (a process that Johnson says takes about an hour per vehicle), the stop sale will be ended.
Johnson also acknowledged that Hyundai is keenly aware that the eyes of the media, public, and Capitol Hill are on Toyota and NHTSA at this time, and the company hopes to effect a swift and complete fix for this door latch issue on a model range that is expected to remain the company's volume leader.
![GS69 is offline](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#373
Lexus Fanatic
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
With the first units of its 2011 Sonata sedan having just begun hitting dealers, Hyundai is in the unfortunate position of having to issue a stop-sale on its most hotly anticipated new model in some time. According to Hyundai, an estimated 5,000 Sonatas may have a defective front door latch that could require replacement:
![Uhh...](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/1387914497.gif)
![Big Grin](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
(Just kidding)
Actually, to be serious, it worked out just right for me. Apparantly that stop-sale order did not come down until later in the day.....by then, I was done with the test-drive and back at home, writing the car up..Had it come down earlier, I might have been SOL for a test-drive.
And, to be honest, I wasn't aware that Hyundai even put that feature on the new Sonata...it doesn't stick out in the car's interior hardware, and there isn't much about it in the literature.
![mmarshall is offline](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#374
Lexus Test Driver
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: il
Posts: 1,439
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
friend of mine who bought GLS 2 weeks ago just got 33mpg doing 50/50. i don't know why this is rated at 22/35. people are reporting sick numbers right now.
![joe80 is offline](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#375
Lexus Test Driver
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: il
Posts: 1,439
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
anyway he leased the car.
36mo/12k per year.
GLS 60% .00048
what a tremendous value. damn, i wish i can trade in my santa fe.
36mo/12k per year.
GLS 60% .00048
what a tremendous value. damn, i wish i can trade in my santa fe.
![joe80 is offline](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)