Car and Driver May 2009 Comparo 1. 328, 2. G37, 3. A4 2.0T 4. TL SH-AWD
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With that being said, some real wood trims can look pretty bad as well, this can be said about first gen Lexus LS/ES, older MBs and Jags. Right now I have to say the best wood trims (whether real or not) are done by Lexus and Jag.
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if you think 230hp with "regular" options (leather, xenon, nav) for 40k is a ripoff (which it is) then the a4 2.0 is complete highway robbery. im surprised the a4 beat out the TL, especially considering both are brand new. the TL may be ugly, but the kit you get with it completely destroys what the a4 offers for the price.
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if you think 230hp with "regular" options (leather, xenon, nav) for 40k is a ripoff (which it is) then the a4 2.0 is complete highway robbery. im surprised the a4 beat out the TL, especially considering both are brand new. the TL may be ugly, but the kit you get with it completely destroys what the a4 offers for the price.
Go to AudiUSA.com and price out an A4
I just did... FWD 2.0t with automatic and premium plus package which includes xenon lights, leather, sunroof, heated seats, ipod interface, among many other upgrades but not including nav.
35 grand
Equipping a 328i as closely as possible I went over 40 without nav.
And yet your numbers are suggesting that an A4 equipped like a 40k dollar 328i would run even more than 40? You need to spell out that configuration for me because I don't think it exists. The A4 has always presented better overall value IMO... especially once fuel economy is considered.
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A4 have always been a better buy, that BMW badge cost 6 to 7 thousand dollars and you also get one of the most boring interior in the business. Performance wise, the two are pretty close, with the 3 series coming out on top, but for $7000 less, I would take the 4 interlocking ring logo.
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uh if i configure an a4 2.0quattro with premium plus and nav it comes out to 39k which is about the same as a 328i with similar options. yet you get more hp with the bmw and free maintenance. how is audi the value buy? and why bother comparing the fwd version if its not even in the comparo?
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I do love the Infiniti drop top though.. Such a beautiful machine.. The hard top on that car was done by one of the best companies in that dept. Karmann The coupe version is no BMW when it comes to the drive.
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if you think 230hp with "regular" options (leather, xenon, nav) for 40k is a ripoff (which it is) then the a4 2.0 is complete highway robbery. im surprised the a4 beat out the TL, especially considering both are brand new. the TL may be ugly, but the kit you get with it completely destroys what the a4 offers for the price.
Where in the world are you getting your info?
Go to AudiUSA.com and price out an A4
I just did... FWD 2.0t with automatic and premium plus package which includes xenon lights, leather, sunroof, heated seats, ipod interface, among many other upgrades but not including nav.
35 grand
Equipping a 328i as closely as possible I went over 40 without nav.
And yet your numbers are suggesting that an A4 equipped like a 40k dollar 328i would run even more than 40? You need to spell out that configuration for me because I don't think it exists. The A4 has always presented better overall value IMO... especially once fuel economy is considered.
Go to AudiUSA.com and price out an A4
I just did... FWD 2.0t with automatic and premium plus package which includes xenon lights, leather, sunroof, heated seats, ipod interface, among many other upgrades but not including nav.
35 grand
Equipping a 328i as closely as possible I went over 40 without nav.
And yet your numbers are suggesting that an A4 equipped like a 40k dollar 328i would run even more than 40? You need to spell out that configuration for me because I don't think it exists. The A4 has always presented better overall value IMO... especially once fuel economy is considered.
The funny thing is I believe the A4 is nearly or as quick as the TL with 100 more hp.
Any links? 2 point is basically a tie in my book.
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uh if i configure an a4 2.0quattro with premium plus and nav it comes out to 39k which is about the same as a 328i with similar options. yet you get more hp with the bmw and free maintenance. how is audi the value buy? and why bother comparing the fwd version if its not even in the comparo?
I just priced out an A4 2.0t AWD 6-speed manual with premium plus and navigation. $38,350
Now for the BMW 328i xDrive. Well hell it already starts at $36,425... that's just under the A4 and we haven't added a single option. In order to match the options of the Premium Plus A4 I needed to add:
-Cold weather package
-Premium Plus package
-Xenon lights
-Navigation
-Ipod/USB adapter
Total price? $44,770
Seriously dude... thats over 6 grand in Audi's favor. How in the world did you come up with the 328i actually costing LESS than the A4 unless you just made it up? To me it seems like you're just talking without any idea what you're talking about... put a little more effort into researching this stuff if you're going to try to make outlandish claims.
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The funny thing is I believe the A4 is nearly or as quick as the TL with 100 more hp.