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FIRST PLACE: Hyundai Genesis Coupe
Best viewed from behind the wheel, where it handles entertaining roads more like a sports car than a pony- or musclecar.

SECOND PLACE: Chevrolet Camaro
Powerful, refined V-6 and enough style to lend some to Hyundai, its weight and size make it less entertaining on second- and third-gear roads.


http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ack/index.html

IS-SV

Good road test, nice to see Chevy making a contemporary sports coupe that hangs in there with the imports.

YEH

Not surprising - the Camaro has the edge in power (well, the V-8 does) and the GenCoupe has the edge in handling.

What is surprising is the MT comparison review where the writer went all gaga over the Mustang GT (not saying it's not a very good pony car) while being all derisive over the GenCoupe for not being the 'Stang or a 370Z (the writer summed up the GenCoupe as being somewhere btwn the 'Stang and Z - which was the whole point; whether someone prefers the power of a V-8 pony car or the handling of a hard-core sports coupe or somewhere in btwn is more or less a personal preference; the fact that MT compares the V-8 Mustang to the Genesis and then compares the V-6 Camaro to the Hyundai is typical maddening MT; I wouldn't be surprised if the Camaro SS won out over the GenCoupe but I don't think comparing a V-8 against a V-6 sports car is a fair comparison; any difference in price should be part of the calculation but I'd rather see a V-6 vs V-6 comparison rather than one based on how close the MSRP is - granted the Mustang GT is closer to the price of the V-6 GenCoupe than the SS).

gshb

i dont think an extra 6hp is going to help make the gencoupe faster.

mmarshall

A 5.6 second 0-60 time certainly isn't what I would call slow. That's about what the original, classic, SS396, 375 HP Camaros that I grew up with in the 1960s ran (the 427 triple-deuce, 435 HP Corvettes, with manual, did 5.3-5.5). If today's Camaro can match that 5.6 time with a V6 and 306 HP.....I'd say that is pretty good.

YEH

I wouldn't say it's slow - the G37 is only a couple of tenths quicker w/ more HP, but yeah, Hyundai should be able to get more out of their V-6.

Hyundai is working on upgrading the MT and DI and a few other tweaks should get the time down to the 5.3 range (hopefully, by then, Hyundai also fixes the odd-looking grille; they should take some cues from some of the aftermarket grilles).

MPLexus301

iTrader: (3)

How does the Genesis coupe, with a 300lb weight advantage over the Camaro, match it's 0-60 time when they have nearly identical power numbers? Was Rosie O'Donnel in the cockpit for the acceleration run?

THAT's a problem. When I first read meowcat's comment about 0-60 in 5.6 being slow I wanted to take a deeper look and the numbers don't match up.

For a car that weighs 3450lbs and has 306hp...0-60 in 5.6 is slow. It should be there in almost 5 seconds flat.

Och

iTrader: (3)

First of all, you cant just look at the maximum HP number, you need to look at the entire torque curve, then there's traction, gearing, drivetrain loss, and yes, the driver.

LexFather

Its clear to ME that the Hyundai 3.8 is a strong engine but its not class leading even as it has the biggest engine. Nothing wrong with that. Its clear the Lexus 3.5 is class leading and Wards agrees. The Nissan 3.7 is strong as well but the G37 times are like Hyundai. The 7 speed auto has helped. The Acura 3.7 performs like a 2.7 and its nearly embarrassing. The Caddy 3.8 with DI is also like the Hyundai, it has 300hp but doesn't perform like it.

MPLexus301

iTrader: (3)

Is that a joke?

Camaro: 273lb-ft

Genesis: 266lb-ft

7lb-ft of torque negates the 300lb discrepancy?

bruce van

The Camaro looks WAY cooler than the Genenis. End of story.

wmb0000

How fast do you guys expect the 3.7 V6 in the Acura to push it 4000 lbs car from 0-60? Maybe a manual but the 5-speed automatic definitely does not help

LexFather

Oh I have low expectations. No one told Acura to put the engine in 4000 lbs cars with old transmissions. However it seems buyers have very low expectations when it comes to vital parts such as the engine and tranny. Also C&D tested the 4000 lbs GS 350 AWD and it did 0-60 in 5.3 seconds, way faster than any Acura. So the weight arguement doesn't hold "weight"

Its totally totally ironic and pathetic that Acura tauts the TL and ADVERTISES it as "the most powerful Acura ever" and
1. It has less power than Hyundais, Kias, Fords, Chevy's, etc
2. It is not the fastest Acura ever, that is the NSX still
3. Its nowhere fastest in class or most powerful in class.

It means nothing. Their own Accord is faster.

Nissan/Infiniti got the memo as their 3.7 makes nearly 30 more hp and now has a proper 7 speed auto.

Lexus 3.5 with dual VVti and DI has 3.5 and has 306/303 but is still class leading with the 335 I-6 turbo.

gshb

where are all the gen coupes? i havent seen a single one. isnt this thing supposed to be on fire?

IS-SV

I haven't seen one on the street yet, only at the 2 car shows.