-J-P-L-

So may I ask how the TDI's 30/41 mpg rating is comparable to the Prius'
48/51 mpg rating???

Combined mpg is 34 for the TDI and 50 for the Prius and they think racing the two is proving something?

This is laughable.

-J-P-L-

Yeah, I was thoroughly impressed by a burnout with a manual transmission car, lol. Uhm, you can do that with just about any car with a stick. Idiots.

And does anyone really expect a Prius to be able to burnout with it's auto? Why would you even want it to?

FKL

Start off with some required reading. The popular mechanics article on the last page should suffice. Point being, the EPA vastly underestimates the TDI's mileage figures, a phenomenon even they have acknowledged.

The entire point is that you can even get a stick with a Jetta TDI, a vehicle that also [happens] to achieve 45mpg. Not some weird CVT, not some slush box, a tired and true manual - or the world class DSG. That's the point of the "burnout". It seemed pretty clear to me.

Um, the Golf [which underpins the Jetta] has been a world benchmark for generations. If you want quite possibly the most integral and successful vehicles in VW's model portfolio, it's the Golf. If you want to talk about "starting trends", how about standard side airbags (1999), or curtain airbags (2002)? Or available turbo powerplants (2000)? Or standard traction control and ESP (2003)? The Jetta has long been at the forefront of it's class for not just passive/active safety systems, but refinement and road manners. Every revision is methodically studied by the competition, from the suspension (copied by GM) to the interior fit and finish, which no small car still seems to be able to topple even today. There's lots of little things that the competition took as well - folding transponder keys were standard back in 2000, Honda/Toyota still cheap out and don't do this (mazda does). Look at those VW-esque roof antennas on the Corolla. That was a trend started on the Golf/Passat in the late 90s.

LexFather

Guys lets debate without having to Rafer Alston one another

dunnojack

i love how they displayed the results in those bar graphs.

here is 0.8 vs 0.81

0.8- X
0.81-XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

YEAH BABY YAH!! jetta wins

FKL

^Lol, yeah it was obnoxious.

4TehNguyen

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its hard to justify diesel when its 20-30 cents more than premium, and 50 cents over regular

nthach

VW is using Mercedes' BlueTec under license - the biggest difference is the Jetta TDI doesn't need urea, while the Touareg TDI and the GL/ML diesel needs urea.

nthach

A Accord iDTEC will negate the need for the fugly Insight.

bad co

the idtec accord will get rid of the oxymoron torquey honda lol

LexFather

^^THey are not bringing it over though. I think its great you can choose between a Jetta or Prius, kudos to VW and Toyota. I do wish VW would focus on their product and not TOyota though

IS-SV

Yep, it just ends up being free advertising for Toyota.

FKL

Thought I would say I'd wish Toyota would put more effort into making the Prius fun to drive!

GS69

This one targets Mercedes & basically any other brand except maybe BMW bc I think that they will take care of the maintenance for you as well:

Meet the VW Commercial

kyang91

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wow.....I never really think of this before but there is some similarity.