General Motors in tentative deal to sell Hummer
#18
Head over to the Hummer forums for some comedy,petitions, of course anger, etc. I guess the great ol American icon will soon be-Chinese owned!
Further proof of a real global economy and this countries demise into the global environment. But....if things go south, the Chinese can always rely on a US bailout-w have plenty of money on paper to loan out.
At least it is keeping a few Americans employed-for now.
Further proof of a real global economy and this countries demise into the global environment. But....if things go south, the Chinese can always rely on a US bailout-w have plenty of money on paper to loan out.
At least it is keeping a few Americans employed-for now.
Last edited by Pearlpower; 06-03-09 at 07:52 PM.
#20
Sometimes I wonder how long the US as a nation can stay on top with no manufacturering sector. Sure this Global economy is nice and it allow us to but some cheap imported products, but is it worth selling our country for that few dollar we save at Walmart?
#21
What is disturbing is that the US will have a greatly diminished manufacturing capability should the need arise similar to WW2 plants were converted for military operations. I suppose we can rely on Japan, China, Canada, and Mexico to built our next military vehicles provided they are not are nemesis at the time.
#22
Reports question Chinese Hummer acquisition
Chinese regulators could block purchase of GM's Hummer unit by Sichuan truck maker
* Elaine Kurtenbach, AP Business Writer
* On Friday June 5, 2009, 5:21 am EDT
Source: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Report...&asset=&ccode=
* Elaine Kurtenbach, AP Business Writer
* On Friday June 5, 2009, 5:21 am EDT
SHANGHAI (AP) -- General Motors Corp.'s planned sale of its Hummer brand to a little-known Chinese truck maker could be blocked by regulators who have not approved the deal and are questioning its wisdom.
Sichuan Tengzhong Heavy Industrial Machinery Co. and GM have given no financial details about the planned purchase of the American maker of gas-guzzling, military-style SUVs.
However, any such deal would require Chinese Commerce Ministry approval at the provincial level at least.
Reports in the Shanghai Securities News and other state-run newspapers Friday said Sichuan Tengzhong had not yet obtained such an approval. They also raised questions over whether the deal will be allowed to go through, with one report likening Tengzhong's plan to acquire Hummer to a "snake trying to swallow an elephant."
The surprise announcement of the acquisition by Sichuan Tengzhong, a maker of heavy industrial vehicles such as cement mixers, has raised questions about the privately owned company, which has disclosed scant information about its ownership or finances.
Reports in the financial magazine Caijing and state-run newspapers said a mining tycoon, Suolang Duoji, who is also known by the Chinese name Li Yan, was behind the deal.
Suolang Duoji indirectly owns a big stake in Sichuan Tengzhong through an investment company called Sichuan Huatong Investment Holding Co., the reports said.
He also is the controlling shareholder and chairman of Lumena Resources Corp., a mining company that is preparing to list shares on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange.
Both Tengzhong and Lumena are based in China's mountainous southwest. However, in the prospectus for Lumena's IPO, Suolang Duoji lists his residential address as a luxury serviced apartment in Hong Kong.
Staff at Tengzhong's public relations firm refused comment. Staff at Tengzhong's headquarters in Chengdu, Sichuan, referred inquiries to the PR agency.
A woman who said she was a human resources manager at Sichuan Huatong refused to transfer calls to any other numbers, saying company policy was to keep such numbers secret.
Lumena is the world's second largest producer of thenardite, a form of sodium sulfate that is used to make detergents and in textile and glass production. The company prospectus reports 1.9 billion yuan ($278.6 million) in assets and net profit of 442.1 million yuan ($65 million) in 2008.
The exact relationship between Lumena and Tengzhong is unclear, as is Tengzhong's own financial status.
Tengzhong is likely benefitting from heavy stimulus spending on construction projects and from rebuilding from last year's earthquake in Sichuan, given its specialization in construction equipment and heavy trucks.
The company earlier said it broke ground on a 3.5 billion yuan ($500 million) factory to make oil field equipment.
Tengzhong's CEO, Yang Yi, has said the company will keep Hummer's headquarters and operations in the U.S., while investing more in research and development of more fuel-efficient vehicles: the Hummer now gets 15 mpg.
Associated Press researcher Ji Chen contributed to this report.
Sichuan Tengzhong Heavy Industrial Machinery Co. and GM have given no financial details about the planned purchase of the American maker of gas-guzzling, military-style SUVs.
However, any such deal would require Chinese Commerce Ministry approval at the provincial level at least.
Reports in the Shanghai Securities News and other state-run newspapers Friday said Sichuan Tengzhong had not yet obtained such an approval. They also raised questions over whether the deal will be allowed to go through, with one report likening Tengzhong's plan to acquire Hummer to a "snake trying to swallow an elephant."
The surprise announcement of the acquisition by Sichuan Tengzhong, a maker of heavy industrial vehicles such as cement mixers, has raised questions about the privately owned company, which has disclosed scant information about its ownership or finances.
Reports in the financial magazine Caijing and state-run newspapers said a mining tycoon, Suolang Duoji, who is also known by the Chinese name Li Yan, was behind the deal.
Suolang Duoji indirectly owns a big stake in Sichuan Tengzhong through an investment company called Sichuan Huatong Investment Holding Co., the reports said.
He also is the controlling shareholder and chairman of Lumena Resources Corp., a mining company that is preparing to list shares on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange.
Both Tengzhong and Lumena are based in China's mountainous southwest. However, in the prospectus for Lumena's IPO, Suolang Duoji lists his residential address as a luxury serviced apartment in Hong Kong.
Staff at Tengzhong's public relations firm refused comment. Staff at Tengzhong's headquarters in Chengdu, Sichuan, referred inquiries to the PR agency.
A woman who said she was a human resources manager at Sichuan Huatong refused to transfer calls to any other numbers, saying company policy was to keep such numbers secret.
Lumena is the world's second largest producer of thenardite, a form of sodium sulfate that is used to make detergents and in textile and glass production. The company prospectus reports 1.9 billion yuan ($278.6 million) in assets and net profit of 442.1 million yuan ($65 million) in 2008.
The exact relationship between Lumena and Tengzhong is unclear, as is Tengzhong's own financial status.
Tengzhong is likely benefitting from heavy stimulus spending on construction projects and from rebuilding from last year's earthquake in Sichuan, given its specialization in construction equipment and heavy trucks.
The company earlier said it broke ground on a 3.5 billion yuan ($500 million) factory to make oil field equipment.
Tengzhong's CEO, Yang Yi, has said the company will keep Hummer's headquarters and operations in the U.S., while investing more in research and development of more fuel-efficient vehicles: the Hummer now gets 15 mpg.
Associated Press researcher Ji Chen contributed to this report.
#23
figured it wouldn't be that easy. and what's the 'valuation'? they'll have to retool or ship presses/machinery of there, which is going to be VERY expensive. AND rely on numerous U.S. parts suppliers until other suppliers can be found. i don't see how it could make ANY financial sense unless you've got a VERY long time horizon and that would make it extremely risky (aka stupid ).
#24
figured it wouldn't be that easy. and what's the 'valuation'? they'll have to retool or ship presses/machinery of there, which is going to be VERY expensive. AND rely on numerous U.S. parts suppliers until other suppliers can be found. i don't see how it could make ANY financial sense unless you've got a VERY long time horizon and that would make it extremely risky (aka stupid ).
#25
why is saturn so cheap? I don't get it. they make some of the most fuel efficient American cars. and their designs are good because lately they are basically rebadged Opels
#26
I just do not believe Saturn will survive under any company. It is difficult to overcome an established stigma.
#27
Hummer Purchase Raises Eyebrows in China
GM’s announcement that it will sell Hummer to an obscure Chinese machinery company called Sichuan Tengzhong Heavy Industrial Machinery Co. is raising a lot of eyebrows in China.
Tengzhong Heavy Industrial is only four years old and employs just 4,800 people in China, but that’s only the beginning. China’s state-run media has hammered the very notion of the acquisition, calling it a “snake trying to swallow an elephant.” While some claim there is a growing market in China for Hummer’s behemoth gas-guzzlers, the brand sold only 547 vehicles there last year.
The Hummer makes sense as a status symbol, certainly, but that status has been highly eroded lately, with U.S. sales plunging from more than 71,000 vehicles in 2006 to 27,468 in 2008. Global sales fell by 62% in the first part of this year, and it’s not clear where Tengzhong expects to earn its money back.
Numerous Chinese agencies will have the final say about the deal, and it could be a hard sell, considering China is trying to consolidate its car manufacturers and promote more efficient vehicles for its rapidly expanding population.
One potential theory that’s being bandied about: Tengzhong is trying to nab itself press coverage that no ad blitz could top.
In China, a Roaring Debate Over Hummer (NPR)
Tengzhong Heavy Industrial is only four years old and employs just 4,800 people in China, but that’s only the beginning. China’s state-run media has hammered the very notion of the acquisition, calling it a “snake trying to swallow an elephant.” While some claim there is a growing market in China for Hummer’s behemoth gas-guzzlers, the brand sold only 547 vehicles there last year.
The Hummer makes sense as a status symbol, certainly, but that status has been highly eroded lately, with U.S. sales plunging from more than 71,000 vehicles in 2006 to 27,468 in 2008. Global sales fell by 62% in the first part of this year, and it’s not clear where Tengzhong expects to earn its money back.
Numerous Chinese agencies will have the final say about the deal, and it could be a hard sell, considering China is trying to consolidate its car manufacturers and promote more efficient vehicles for its rapidly expanding population.
One potential theory that’s being bandied about: Tengzhong is trying to nab itself press coverage that no ad blitz could top.
In China, a Roaring Debate Over Hummer (NPR)
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