BMW M7 coming to Dealership near you...
06-04-09, 01:30 PM
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They're two completely different cars. A fully modded 335 without upgrading turbos pushes ~400whp. The new M3's with bolt ons, just bolt ons, pushes more.
06-04-09, 02:14 PM
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They are the epitome of their class, and also perfectly exemplify premium luxury. They are extravagant premium sedans full of luxury, but also boasting tremendous performance. IMHO any serious world-class luxury brand needs one. I hope Lexus is coming out with a full-fledged LS-F in the future, not just F-Sport parts.
06-04-09, 04:14 PM
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I like the alpina wheels.. whats wrong with them? they looked good with the old body
06-04-09, 11:03 PM
#39
if no one said it before, i'll say it:
It's so sad how the X5 M and the X6 M came to being before the M 7.
Yes. There should never have been an M 7 in the first place because it doesn't fit into M's philosophy.
There philosophy now is, "Milk the M badge for all it's got. It's worked for M-B and AMG."
It's so sad how the X5 M and the X6 M came to being before the M 7.
Yes. There should never have been an M 7 in the first place because it doesn't fit into M's philosophy.
There philosophy now is, "Milk the M badge for all it's got. It's worked for M-B and AMG."
06-05-09, 08:41 AM
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if no one said it before, i'll say it:
It's so sad how the X5 M and the X6 M came to being before the M 7.
Yes. There should never have been an M 7 in the first place because it doesn't fit into M's philosophy.
There philosophy now is, "Milk the M badge for all it's got. It's worked for M-B and AMG."
It's so sad how the X5 M and the X6 M came to being before the M 7.
Yes. There should never have been an M 7 in the first place because it doesn't fit into M's philosophy.
There philosophy now is, "Milk the M badge for all it's got. It's worked for M-B and AMG."
06-05-09, 09:01 AM
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if no one said it before, i'll say it:
It's so sad how the X5 M and the X6 M came to being before the M 7.
Yes. There should never have been an M 7 in the first place because it doesn't fit into M's philosophy.
There philosophy now is, "Milk the M badge for all it's got. It's worked for M-B and AMG."
It's so sad how the X5 M and the X6 M came to being before the M 7.
Yes. There should never have been an M 7 in the first place because it doesn't fit into M's philosophy.
There philosophy now is, "Milk the M badge for all it's got. It's worked for M-B and AMG."
06-05-09, 10:06 AM
#43
m philosophy historically has been certain performance aspect and numbers on the track. if their cars can't achieve those perspective then they wouldn't bother with the m version of that vehicle. bmw CLEARLY stated that before, and that's exactly where they didn't have the m7 even when people repeatedly asked for it, let alone the SUVs. bmw also stated before that the m cars should/would be NA engines instead of FI. these were all words from bmw, not off the street
but obviously we all know that they will likely have FI for m cars in the next generation. next we saw the unbelievable x5/6 m, and now the rumor m7. to me this is clearly marketing over m division true meaning. m3/m5/m6 they all came pretty close on the track, putting fantastic numbers. now i am pretty skeptical the x5/6 m can do something similar.
but obviously we all know that they will likely have FI for m cars in the next generation. next we saw the unbelievable x5/6 m, and now the rumor m7. to me this is clearly marketing over m division true meaning. m3/m5/m6 they all came pretty close on the track, putting fantastic numbers. now i am pretty skeptical the x5/6 m can do something similar.
06-05-09, 10:25 AM
#44
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwnmYOKZVLs
The M badge is more than just marketing & sales. Vehicles with that badge better perform like an M for those who seek M.
06-05-09, 10:42 AM
#45
Someone is late to the party..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwnmYOKZVLs
The M badge is more than just marketing & sales. Vehicles with that badge better perform like an M for those who seek M.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwnmYOKZVLs
The M badge is more than just marketing & sales. Vehicles with that badge better perform like an M for those who seek M.
i didn't say anywhere in my post that x5/6 m is just a normal x5/6 with bigger engine and wider wheels, i am not stupid. i am sure they beef up a lot of things, just like the m63 from mb. however, that doesn't put them in the same performance as m3/m5
"better" perform like an m? tell me when it's proven then i will believe. there is a reason why m division refused to do m7 and m suv for years, they aren't stupid either