When will next gen IS and GS be out?
06-13-09, 03:04 PM
#106
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Well this is the lineup
528 (high volume)- no Lexus
535-GS 350
no BMW-GS 450h (limited production/volume)
550-GS 460h
M5-no Lexus
I stated YEARS ago if Lexus wanted to sell more GSs, they should have kept the GS 300, kept the price down to 40k and it would have helped sales. A lot of people don't want/care for power. So they would have 300/350/450h/460
528 (high volume)- no Lexus
535-GS 350
no BMW-GS 450h (limited production/volume)
550-GS 460h
M5-no Lexus
I stated YEARS ago if Lexus wanted to sell more GSs, they should have kept the GS 300, kept the price down to 40k and it would have helped sales. A lot of people don't want/care for power. So they would have 300/350/450h/460
06-13-09, 03:33 PM
#107
I just browsed lexus.com to configure an IS & GS. What is up with these 5k & 6k packages? Why can't one build a car to their liking? I also discovered that you have to type in your zip code in order for Lexus to find a car that matches what you configured in your immediate area?? It seems like the cars are already made and sitting somewhere on a lot rather than the customer configuring a car with the options of their liking. No having it built from scratch at the factory per order? My 2009 car is being built right now and I can follow its progress all through out the build including the day I take delivery. It would be great if Lexus had an individual program in place imo. Hopefully, it will in a few years..
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06-13-09, 03:36 PM
#108
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The IS250 is certainly an example of most buyers selecting the less powerful version by far.
06-13-09, 04:12 PM
#110
Yeah, but those deals are offered by the individual dealers, which means only locally.
BMW deals are offer by umm... BMWUSA, which means umm... NATION-WIDE.
Lexus deals also aren't consistent month after month, unlike BMW, which is pretty consistent with their lease deals umm... YEAR AFTER YEAR.
Here are some local BMW lease deals, want a 2009 BMW 328i? $328/month...
http://www.shellybmw.com/inv_new.php...FRYiagod_2ZVqA
Want a 528i? Here's one for $459/month, which is better than the $489/month offered by BMWUSA...
http://www.fieldsbmwlakeland.com/specials/lease.htm
BMW deals are offer by umm... BMWUSA, which means umm... NATION-WIDE.
Lexus deals also aren't consistent month after month, unlike BMW, which is pretty consistent with their lease deals umm... YEAR AFTER YEAR.
Here are some local BMW lease deals, want a 2009 BMW 328i? $328/month...
http://www.shellybmw.com/inv_new.php...FRYiagod_2ZVqA
Want a 528i? Here's one for $459/month, which is better than the $489/month offered by BMWUSA...
http://www.fieldsbmwlakeland.com/specials/lease.htm
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06-13-09, 04:20 PM
#111
Yeah, but those deals are offered by the individual dealers, which means only locally.
BMW deals are offer by umm... BMWUSA, which means umm... NATION-WIDE.
Lexus deals also aren't consistent month after month, unlike BMW, which is pretty consistent with their lease deals umm... YEAR AFTER YEAR.
BMW deals are offer by umm... BMWUSA, which means umm... NATION-WIDE.
Lexus deals also aren't consistent month after month, unlike BMW, which is pretty consistent with their lease deals umm... YEAR AFTER YEAR.
Since you mentioned BMWUSA, lets look at their lease deals.. Take note at the amount of cash due at signing.. click link http://www.bmwusa.com/standard/conte...aseoffers.aspx
06-13-09, 05:02 PM
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Yeah, but those deals are offered by the individual dealers, which means only locally.
BMW deals are offer by umm... BMWUSA, which means umm... NATION-WIDE.
Lexus deals also aren't consistent month after month, unlike BMW, which is pretty consistent with their lease deals umm... YEAR AFTER YEAR.
Here are some local BMW lease deals, want a 2009 BMW 328i? $328/month...
http://www.shellybmw.com/inv_new.php...FRYiagod_2ZVqA
Want a 528i? Here's one for $459/month, which is better than the $489/month offered by BMWUSA...
http://www.fieldsbmwlakeland.com/specials/lease.htm
BMW deals are offer by umm... BMWUSA, which means umm... NATION-WIDE.
Lexus deals also aren't consistent month after month, unlike BMW, which is pretty consistent with their lease deals umm... YEAR AFTER YEAR.
Here are some local BMW lease deals, want a 2009 BMW 328i? $328/month...
http://www.shellybmw.com/inv_new.php...FRYiagod_2ZVqA
Want a 528i? Here's one for $459/month, which is better than the $489/month offered by BMWUSA...
http://www.fieldsbmwlakeland.com/specials/lease.htm
Does Lexus lease? Yes. To the extent of BMW, nope. 60% of BMWs are leased. We found out last year 80% of 7 series and I think 70% of Z4s are leased.
Why? B/C you can drive them for cheap and get free maintenance. Not what C&D says about them.
Do I care? No, its their sales tactic, it helps them with sales, even as BMW HQ frowns upon it as it kills profits.
Huge thread on why Lexus offers packages.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...-packages.html
Lexus does huge amounts of research on packages based on region. For instance the new RX 450h allocation is completely based on what they think people are most likely to buy based on history and info from dealers.
Is it the right way? Well no way is the right way. Its their way of doing things and works for them.
This is from 2007 and NOTHING has changed.
BMW lauds sales prospects, but investors worry about U.S. incentives
GENEVA, Switzerland -- German luxury car maker BMW used its 15 minutes with the media at the international car show here, to point out its increased sales target for 2007, and take credit for its attempts to improve fuel efficiency with high tech solutions.
Unfortunately, investors are not seeing the company in such a favourable light, and are fretting about its prospects in the U.S., where sales seem to be under pressure.
Investment banker Dresdner Kleinwort said BMW incentives in the U.S. are causing concern.
"BMW's discounting practice in the U.S. leaves us speechless. Since May 2006, BMW has offered structurally higher incentives compared to its peers and there appears to be no light at the end of the tunnel," Frankfurt, Germany-based Dresdner Kleinwort said in a report.
"Incentives stand at an average of $4,125 per vehicle, which is about 60 percent higher compared to Mercedes ($2,573) and Audi ($2,607). Most of these discounts are related to BMW's active move into competitive lease deals," the report said.
BMW achieved record global sales in 2006 of 1.37 million vehicles and expects to beat that again in 2007 with more than 1.4 million BMWs, Minis and Rolls Royces sold.
Morgan Stanley said BMW can expect tougher competition from Porsche and Audi, and agreed that it is being forced to increase incentives to sell its cars in America, and faces a massive challenge from new emissions regulations.
Morgan Stanley cut its rating on BMW shares to "underweight" from "overweight," and recommended investors buy DaimlerChrysler or VW shares instead.
It also suggested that BMW may have to seek an alliance partner to shore up its future.
"We believe BMW may be in the early chapters of a restructuring story - are investors prepared for this? Looking longer term, we believe BMW management (and the Quandt family) must consider a strategic alliance with another automotive partner to surmount the challenges of scale economies, geographic diversification and share access to new power-train technologies and emission solutions," said Morgan.
Morgan cut its BMW earnings forecasts by 5 to 6 percent for 2007 and 2008, mainly because of higher incentives in the U.S. and the weak dollar. Longer term threats include the introduction of the Porsche Panamera in 2009, while Lexus and Nissan's Infiniti are gearing up for a sales push in Europe.
At today's press conference in Geneva, BMW board chairman Norbert Reithofer said the company is making important progress using technology to improve fuel economy. The bottom of the range 1-series and the 5-Series will soon have regenerative braking, which conserves energy when the car is being braked, or is freewheeling. These cars will also include so-called "stop-start" systems, which automatically switch off the engine when the car is stationary, and reignite it when the accelerator is pressed.
But Dresdner Kleinwort is not impressed.
"Even discounts on the new X5 (large SUV) are back at $4,490. The 7 Series is supported with $11,345 (Mercedes S class $3,711). Against this diluted pricing level, a 15 percent increase in February unit sales (in the U.S.) is meaningless in our view.
GENEVA, Switzerland -- German luxury car maker BMW used its 15 minutes with the media at the international car show here, to point out its increased sales target for 2007, and take credit for its attempts to improve fuel efficiency with high tech solutions.
Unfortunately, investors are not seeing the company in such a favourable light, and are fretting about its prospects in the U.S., where sales seem to be under pressure.
Investment banker Dresdner Kleinwort said BMW incentives in the U.S. are causing concern.
"BMW's discounting practice in the U.S. leaves us speechless. Since May 2006, BMW has offered structurally higher incentives compared to its peers and there appears to be no light at the end of the tunnel," Frankfurt, Germany-based Dresdner Kleinwort said in a report.
"Incentives stand at an average of $4,125 per vehicle, which is about 60 percent higher compared to Mercedes ($2,573) and Audi ($2,607). Most of these discounts are related to BMW's active move into competitive lease deals," the report said.
BMW achieved record global sales in 2006 of 1.37 million vehicles and expects to beat that again in 2007 with more than 1.4 million BMWs, Minis and Rolls Royces sold.
Morgan Stanley said BMW can expect tougher competition from Porsche and Audi, and agreed that it is being forced to increase incentives to sell its cars in America, and faces a massive challenge from new emissions regulations.
Morgan Stanley cut its rating on BMW shares to "underweight" from "overweight," and recommended investors buy DaimlerChrysler or VW shares instead.
It also suggested that BMW may have to seek an alliance partner to shore up its future.
"We believe BMW may be in the early chapters of a restructuring story - are investors prepared for this? Looking longer term, we believe BMW management (and the Quandt family) must consider a strategic alliance with another automotive partner to surmount the challenges of scale economies, geographic diversification and share access to new power-train technologies and emission solutions," said Morgan.
Morgan cut its BMW earnings forecasts by 5 to 6 percent for 2007 and 2008, mainly because of higher incentives in the U.S. and the weak dollar. Longer term threats include the introduction of the Porsche Panamera in 2009, while Lexus and Nissan's Infiniti are gearing up for a sales push in Europe.
At today's press conference in Geneva, BMW board chairman Norbert Reithofer said the company is making important progress using technology to improve fuel economy. The bottom of the range 1-series and the 5-Series will soon have regenerative braking, which conserves energy when the car is being braked, or is freewheeling. These cars will also include so-called "stop-start" systems, which automatically switch off the engine when the car is stationary, and reignite it when the accelerator is pressed.
But Dresdner Kleinwort is not impressed.
"Even discounts on the new X5 (large SUV) are back at $4,490. The 7 Series is supported with $11,345 (Mercedes S class $3,711). Against this diluted pricing level, a 15 percent increase in February unit sales (in the U.S.) is meaningless in our view.
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2004/0621/068_print.html
BMW lease deals are great for consumers that want a BMW. They clearly are not so good for BMW HQ.
06-13-09, 05:04 PM
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Again, I don't care how they sell the cars, lease, give away, barter system, I don't care. Here are more facts. Lexus simply does not do business this way.
BMW Tries to Reduce Leases From 60% of Its U.S. Sales (Update3)
By Mike Ramsey
July 30 (Bloomberg) -- Bayerische Motoren Werke AG, the world's largest maker of luxury vehicles, is increasing incentives to purchase cars as a way to reduce reliance on leases that make up 60 percent of its U.S. sales.
The automaker several weeks ago began offering buyers 0.9 percent loans of as long as five years, said Jan Ehlen, a spokesman for its U.S. unit in Woodcliff Lake, New Jersey. BMW also raised its lease prices an average of 3 percent on May 1.
``We are offering a broader variety of purchasing options,'' Ehlen said today in an interview. ``One of the intentions is to have a more balanced relation between financing and leasing,'' he said, adding that Munich-based BMW doesn't have a target figure.
BMW's changes reflect the effect of rising lease costs on luxury-vehicle sellers. The company's push began after it booked first-quarter costs of 236 million euros ($373 million) because of bad debts and lower values of vehicles in the U.S. when leases end. Other automakers and some banks are dropping or reducing leases, and Ford Motor Co. last week took a $2.1 billion pretax writedown on the value of such contracts for its trucks.
Group 1 Automotive Inc. Chief Executive Officer Earl Hesterberg said yesterday in an interview that BMW's incentive program was designed to wean customers from leasing and that he expected other makers of luxury vehicles to take similar action. Group 1, the fourth-largest U.S. auto retailer, owned 11 BMW franchises at the end of 2007.
Charles Oglesby, CEO of retailer Asbury Automotive Group Inc., told analysts on a call today that the pullback on leasing ``will have some impact on the luxury side of the business.''
Higher Lease Percentages
Makers of luxury vehicles typically get a higher percentage of sales from leases. About 20 percent of U.S. new-vehicle sales were leases this year through July 20, according to J.D. Power & Associates. The market-research firm's Power Information Network said such contracts were 55 percent of sales at Daimler AG's Mercedes-Benz, 43 percent at Toyota Motor Corp.'s Lexus and 42 percent at General Motors Corp.'s Cadillac.
Automakers, banks and finance companies are seeing declining values when vehicles, particularly large pickup trucks and sport- utility vehicles, are returned when leases end. Manheim Consulting, a provider of data on used cars and trucks, said on July 8 that the value of U.S. used vehicles fell 6.2 percent in June, the eighth straight month of decline.
Banks, struggling with losses from the sub-prime mortgage crisis, also are charging higher interest rates for leases because they are riskier than auto purchase loans.
Chrysler, GMAC
Chrysler LLC said on July 25 that its finance arm will stop offering vehicle leases Aug. 1. JPMorgan Chase & Co. said yesterday that it no longer will provide leases on Chrysler vehicles starting the same day.
GMAC LLC, 49 percent owned by GM, will stop offering leases with incentives in Canada on Aug. 1, while continuing them in the U.S. GMAC spokeswoman Gina Proia said the auto-finance unit hasn't announced any changes in U.S. programs for leases with incentives.
Ford told some U.S. dealers this week that it will boost prices on leases for large pickups and SUVs.
Toyota's Lexus hasn't changed its position on leasing and has no effort similar to BMW's, spokesman Greg Thome said.
Daimler's lending unit, Daimler Financial, hasn't altered its stance on leasing in the U.S., spokesman Jack Ferry said. Of Mercedes-Benz sales the unit handles, three-quarters are leases.
Volkswagen AG's VW Credit hasn't pulled back on leasing for its Audi luxury brand, Audi spokesman Christian Bokich said.
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BMW Tries to Reduce Leases From 60% of Its U.S. Sales (Update3)
By Mike Ramsey
July 30 (Bloomberg) -- Bayerische Motoren Werke AG, the world's largest maker of luxury vehicles, is increasing incentives to purchase cars as a way to reduce reliance on leases that make up 60 percent of its U.S. sales.
The automaker several weeks ago began offering buyers 0.9 percent loans of as long as five years, said Jan Ehlen, a spokesman for its U.S. unit in Woodcliff Lake, New Jersey. BMW also raised its lease prices an average of 3 percent on May 1.
``We are offering a broader variety of purchasing options,'' Ehlen said today in an interview. ``One of the intentions is to have a more balanced relation between financing and leasing,'' he said, adding that Munich-based BMW doesn't have a target figure.
BMW's changes reflect the effect of rising lease costs on luxury-vehicle sellers. The company's push began after it booked first-quarter costs of 236 million euros ($373 million) because of bad debts and lower values of vehicles in the U.S. when leases end. Other automakers and some banks are dropping or reducing leases, and Ford Motor Co. last week took a $2.1 billion pretax writedown on the value of such contracts for its trucks.
Group 1 Automotive Inc. Chief Executive Officer Earl Hesterberg said yesterday in an interview that BMW's incentive program was designed to wean customers from leasing and that he expected other makers of luxury vehicles to take similar action. Group 1, the fourth-largest U.S. auto retailer, owned 11 BMW franchises at the end of 2007.
Charles Oglesby, CEO of retailer Asbury Automotive Group Inc., told analysts on a call today that the pullback on leasing ``will have some impact on the luxury side of the business.''
Higher Lease Percentages
Makers of luxury vehicles typically get a higher percentage of sales from leases. About 20 percent of U.S. new-vehicle sales were leases this year through July 20, according to J.D. Power & Associates. The market-research firm's Power Information Network said such contracts were 55 percent of sales at Daimler AG's Mercedes-Benz, 43 percent at Toyota Motor Corp.'s Lexus and 42 percent at General Motors Corp.'s Cadillac.
Automakers, banks and finance companies are seeing declining values when vehicles, particularly large pickup trucks and sport- utility vehicles, are returned when leases end. Manheim Consulting, a provider of data on used cars and trucks, said on July 8 that the value of U.S. used vehicles fell 6.2 percent in June, the eighth straight month of decline.
Banks, struggling with losses from the sub-prime mortgage crisis, also are charging higher interest rates for leases because they are riskier than auto purchase loans.
Chrysler, GMAC
Chrysler LLC said on July 25 that its finance arm will stop offering vehicle leases Aug. 1. JPMorgan Chase & Co. said yesterday that it no longer will provide leases on Chrysler vehicles starting the same day.
GMAC LLC, 49 percent owned by GM, will stop offering leases with incentives in Canada on Aug. 1, while continuing them in the U.S. GMAC spokeswoman Gina Proia said the auto-finance unit hasn't announced any changes in U.S. programs for leases with incentives.
Ford told some U.S. dealers this week that it will boost prices on leases for large pickups and SUVs.
Toyota's Lexus hasn't changed its position on leasing and has no effort similar to BMW's, spokesman Greg Thome said.
Daimler's lending unit, Daimler Financial, hasn't altered its stance on leasing in the U.S., spokesman Jack Ferry said. Of Mercedes-Benz sales the unit handles, three-quarters are leases.
Volkswagen AG's VW Credit hasn't pulled back on leasing for its Audi luxury brand, Audi spokesman Christian Bokich said.
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LONDON (MarketWatch) -- BMW on Friday came under heavy selling pressure as the luxury automaker warned of deteriorating prices on returned leased cars, leading the Munich firm to report a 33% drop in second-quarter profit.
BMW (DE:519000: news, chart, profile) , which brought forward its earnings announcement by a few days, said it took a charge of 459 million euros on the higher risk provisions and allowance for residual-value risks associated with leased cars. BMW warned it may have to take further provisions in the second half.
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GM 11.07, -0.33, -2.9%) faced a similar problem as the Detroit automaker lost $15.5 billion in the second quarter.
The BMW write-off led its profit to fall 33% to 507 million euros ($788 million) in the second quarter.
The news didn't come as a surprise to all -- Deutsche Bank on Thursday published a note warning that consensus profit estimates were too high and that risk provision estimates too low -- but the stock dropped 7% in afternoon trade.
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"Business conditions for the automobile industry deteriorated sharply again in the second quarter due to further ongoing steep rises in oil and raw material prices, the weakness of the U.S. dollar, the impact of the international financial crisis and a weaker U.S. economy," the company said.
Revenue fell 0.9% to 14.55 billion euros, even as volumes rose by 5%, including a 2% rise for BMW-branded cars.
Mini sales climbed 13.5% and Rolls-Royce sales jumped 72%, albeit to just 312 cars.
But motorcycle sales fell 4%, which again it blamed on the weak U.S. economy.
"It's not clear whether discounting or an increasing customer preference for smaller cars drove the deterioration in average revenue per unit," said Nomura International analyst Michael Tyndall.
For the year, BMW expects its pretax return on sales to be at least 4%. Analysts polled by FactSet Research had expected the ratio of pretax earnings to sales to be 6.2%.
It didn't sound optimistic for next year, either.
"We assume that 2009 will be another difficult year full of challenges," said CEO Norbert Reithofer.
BMW will reduce sales volumes in the U.S. and the group is looking to sell some vehicles into countries with higher margins.
It's going to reduce production volumes overall and increase selling prices. End of Story
BMW (DE:519000: news, chart, profile) , which brought forward its earnings announcement by a few days, said it took a charge of 459 million euros on the higher risk provisions and allowance for residual-value risks associated with leased cars. BMW warned it may have to take further provisions in the second half.
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GM 11.07, -0.33, -2.9%) faced a similar problem as the Detroit automaker lost $15.5 billion in the second quarter.
The BMW write-off led its profit to fall 33% to 507 million euros ($788 million) in the second quarter.
The news didn't come as a surprise to all -- Deutsche Bank on Thursday published a note warning that consensus profit estimates were too high and that risk provision estimates too low -- but the stock dropped 7% in afternoon trade.
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"Business conditions for the automobile industry deteriorated sharply again in the second quarter due to further ongoing steep rises in oil and raw material prices, the weakness of the U.S. dollar, the impact of the international financial crisis and a weaker U.S. economy," the company said.
Revenue fell 0.9% to 14.55 billion euros, even as volumes rose by 5%, including a 2% rise for BMW-branded cars.
Mini sales climbed 13.5% and Rolls-Royce sales jumped 72%, albeit to just 312 cars.
But motorcycle sales fell 4%, which again it blamed on the weak U.S. economy.
"It's not clear whether discounting or an increasing customer preference for smaller cars drove the deterioration in average revenue per unit," said Nomura International analyst Michael Tyndall.
For the year, BMW expects its pretax return on sales to be at least 4%. Analysts polled by FactSet Research had expected the ratio of pretax earnings to sales to be 6.2%.
It didn't sound optimistic for next year, either.
"We assume that 2009 will be another difficult year full of challenges," said CEO Norbert Reithofer.
BMW will reduce sales volumes in the U.S. and the group is looking to sell some vehicles into countries with higher margins.
It's going to reduce production volumes overall and increase selling prices. End of Story
06-13-09, 05:09 PM
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So to relate this to the topic the 5 leases help BMW put on that paper "sold" and it beats the brains out of everyone in this class in regards to sales. The GS will never stand a chance b/c Lexus will not engage in this business practice to that extent.
Which is fine, both cars are superb and if consumers want to have an attractive lease, the BMW will be the better offer.
Which is fine, both cars are superb and if consumers want to have an attractive lease, the BMW will be the better offer.
06-13-09, 06:11 PM
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Lets use your link FFPOWERLN to see how far these "high incentives" from BMWNA goes..
$369*/month for 36 months which includes a compelling $1,000 lease cash offer
Vehicle Registered outside N.Y.
• $369 First months payment
• $3,150 Down payment
• $400 Security Deposit
• $725 Acquisition fee
• $4,644 Cash due at signing
*Lease financing available on 2009 BMW 328i Sedan vehicles, only at participating BMW centers on leases assigned to BMW Financial Services NA, LLC/Financial Services Vehicle Trust through June 1, 2009. Monthly lease payments of $369.00 for 36 months based on MSRP of $39,100.00 (includes Premium Package, complimentary automatic transmission and Destination). (Total lease payment is $13,264.00). Monthly payment also includes a $1,000 lease cash offer being made by BMW of North America, LLC. Lease cash is applied to lease contract in the form of capitalized cost reduction and is disclosed as such on the lease contract. Excludes tax, title, license, and registration fees. Lease financing subject to credit approval. Dealer contribution may affect terms. Lessee must cover insurance and all items not covered under the BMW Maintenance program. At lease end, lessee will be liable for disposition fee ($350.00), any excess wear and use as set forth in the lease agreement and excess mileage charges of $.20 per mile for miles driven in excess of 10,000 miles per year. Purchase option at lease end for $23,460.00 excludes taxes. Lessee acquires no ownership interest unless purchase option is exercised. See participating BMW centers for details and vehicle availability. For more information call 1-800-334-4BMW. Special lease rates and pricing may not be reflected throughout www.bmwusa.com. Please see your BMW center for details.
Ultimate Service covers all factory recommended maintenance on all MY2006 vehicles and newer vehicles, as determined by the Service Level Indicator, for 4 years or 50,000 miles, whichever comes first. Exclusions from coverage: gasoline, gasoline additives, windshield washer additives, tires, wheels, wheel alignment, tire balancing and rotation. All work must be performed by an authorized BMW center. See the Service and Warranty information booklet for more details and specific terms, conditions and limitations. ©2009
Vehicle Registered outside N.Y.
• $369 First months payment
• $3,150 Down payment
• $400 Security Deposit
• $725 Acquisition fee
• $4,644 Cash due at signing
*Lease financing available on 2009 BMW 328i Sedan vehicles, only at participating BMW centers on leases assigned to BMW Financial Services NA, LLC/Financial Services Vehicle Trust through June 1, 2009. Monthly lease payments of $369.00 for 36 months based on MSRP of $39,100.00 (includes Premium Package, complimentary automatic transmission and Destination). (Total lease payment is $13,264.00). Monthly payment also includes a $1,000 lease cash offer being made by BMW of North America, LLC. Lease cash is applied to lease contract in the form of capitalized cost reduction and is disclosed as such on the lease contract. Excludes tax, title, license, and registration fees. Lease financing subject to credit approval. Dealer contribution may affect terms. Lessee must cover insurance and all items not covered under the BMW Maintenance program. At lease end, lessee will be liable for disposition fee ($350.00), any excess wear and use as set forth in the lease agreement and excess mileage charges of $.20 per mile for miles driven in excess of 10,000 miles per year. Purchase option at lease end for $23,460.00 excludes taxes. Lessee acquires no ownership interest unless purchase option is exercised. See participating BMW centers for details and vehicle availability. For more information call 1-800-334-4BMW. Special lease rates and pricing may not be reflected throughout www.bmwusa.com. Please see your BMW center for details.
Ultimate Service covers all factory recommended maintenance on all MY2006 vehicles and newer vehicles, as determined by the Service Level Indicator, for 4 years or 50,000 miles, whichever comes first. Exclusions from coverage: gasoline, gasoline additives, windshield washer additives, tires, wheels, wheel alignment, tire balancing and rotation. All work must be performed by an authorized BMW center. See the Service and Warranty information booklet for more details and specific terms, conditions and limitations. ©2009
06-13-09, 06:21 PM
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Sure you can choose to ignore me, but you better not ignore the fine print when you are ready to go car shopping..
Lets use your link FFPOWERLN to see how far these "high incentives" from BMWNA goes..
But you should take "someone with brains" like 1sick (since I lack it) to explain cap cost and the other lease language in the fine print that magazines and old internet articles do not reflect.. Happy shopping
Lets use your link FFPOWERLN to see how far these "high incentives" from BMWNA goes..
But you should take "someone with brains" like 1sick (since I lack it) to explain cap cost and the other lease language in the fine print that magazines and old internet articles do not reflect.. Happy shopping
63% of BMWs are leased, period.
06-13-09, 06:27 PM
#117
Sure you can choose to ignore me, but you better not ignore the fine print when you are ready to go car shopping..
Lets use your link FFPOWERLN to see how far these "high incentives" from BMWNA goes..
But you should take "someone with brains" like 1sick (since I lack it) to explain cap cost and the other lease language in the fine print that magazines and old internet articles do not reflect.. Happy shopping
Lets use your link FFPOWERLN to see how far these "high incentives" from BMWNA goes..
But you should take "someone with brains" like 1sick (since I lack it) to explain cap cost and the other lease language in the fine print that magazines and old internet articles do not reflect.. Happy shopping
06-14-09, 01:32 AM
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What does any of this lease stuff have to do with when will the next gen IS or GS will be out?
Time to close this thread or get it back on track
Time to close this thread or get it back on track
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lol yeah. came to this thread about next IS coming out and read a whoel page of leasing info. back on track!
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