Official Infiniti Q70 (M37/56) thread
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I will agree it is a beautiful car and it will steal sales but to call infiniti ahead of Audi? They have 4 models! One sells ok (the g) the rest bearly make it!!
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but really though, the door panel is one piece, just like in the RX. they just molded the rubber and plastic with more curves and grooves. how much more expensive can that be?....
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the M56 is just for bragging rights.
it won't sell well.
Lexus is too practical-minded to put out a monster GS just because infiniti did. but it may put out after the LF-A hits the market.
as more proof that lexus doesn't give a crap what other people do........ lexus hasn't even built a true coupe yet.
it won't sell well.
Lexus is too practical-minded to put out a monster GS just because infiniti did. but it may put out after the LF-A hits the market.
as more proof that lexus doesn't give a crap what other people do........ lexus hasn't even built a true coupe yet.
you are right, but they need to give a crap about the consumer. There was a time when you bought a Lexus because it was hands down better quality, more car for less money and I think that this winning combination may be getting less attractive as time goes on.....
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i agree lexus is going with a minimalistic design for the interior door panels (which i too hope they change). but the infiniti is using soft vinyl or something on their door panels, unlike the RX which is a giant piece of plastic. However, the current M starts at 46K. With all these improvements, im guessing a base at 48 at least. Lexus could do a lot with a 10K more budget on the RX
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HOLY ****!!! I absolutely love what I'm seeing.
As a fan of the current-gen Nissan Fuga/Infiniti M (which is my favorite car from the Renault-Nissan alliance and the best-looking of them all IMHO), this surely exceeds my expectations completely for the new model.
That and along with 1SICKLEX and others here, we were all caught off-guard by the announcement of a 5.6 liter engine. Heck, I and I guess many of us were only expecting the 5.0 liter V8 engine (VK50VE) to be the top-end engine for this new vehicle. However, I guess they pulled something off their sleeve this time.
Wahoo, more than 400 horsepower. Awesome!!!
That and later this year or next year, we might also see what diesel engine they're going to use for this car (in the European market).
Indeed, I really like what I'm seeing and hearing.
As a fan of the current-gen Nissan Fuga/Infiniti M (which is my favorite car from the Renault-Nissan alliance and the best-looking of them all IMHO), this surely exceeds my expectations completely for the new model.
That and along with 1SICKLEX and others here, we were all caught off-guard by the announcement of a 5.6 liter engine. Heck, I and I guess many of us were only expecting the 5.0 liter V8 engine (VK50VE) to be the top-end engine for this new vehicle. However, I guess they pulled something off their sleeve this time.
Wahoo, more than 400 horsepower. Awesome!!!
That and later this year or next year, we might also see what diesel engine they're going to use for this car (in the European market).
Indeed, I really like what I'm seeing and hearing.
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They said it was hand-rubbed aluminum, using some sort of old Japanese technique. Infiniti can no longer afford to be using fake stuff in their cars if they want to be taken seriously. But, I like that they bring Japanese heritage into their products like this.
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Infiniti just set the bar extremely, extremely high for the 4GS. The interior and the performance numbers look easily class leading by a significant margin.
If Lexus simply hopes to "up the quotient" like they (barely) did with the 3GS then they shouldn't even bother. The car will nearly have to be a revolution to regain the crown.
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If Lexus simply hopes to "up the quotient" like they (barely) did with the 3GS then they shouldn't even bother. The car will nearly have to be a revolution to regain the crown.
Congrats to Infiniti for building such a knockout
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The 4GS has it's work cut out for it. We all know the 4.6 liter engine from Lexus is capable of 380 hp. Lexus can definitely tweak that to 400 to compete with the new M. Where Lexus will come out ahead of the M will be the GS F which hopefully will sport the detuned V10 engine developed for the LF A...we will wait and see what Lexus comes up next.
If one wakes up the Dragon be prepared to take the heat...
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BTW he probably cropped that picture you see.
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back on curves / lines
i don't care for the diagnoal grooves on the seat cushions either.
and i don't like the front at all, especially the cheap looking all plastic lower front bumper. i prefer the new e-class for example.
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and i don't like the front at all, especially the cheap looking all plastic lower front bumper. i prefer the new e-class for example.
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