Official Infiniti Q70 (M37/56) thread
09-14-09, 02:24 AM
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Styling cues IMO are much better then the GS for a mid sized Luxury sedan. A few members are right Lexus needs to step up to the plate and deliver. I would consider a M anyday. I'm really considering a 06 or 07 M in the near future if my budget allows. The interior to me is almost as balanced as a new GS. The M may offer a bit more in the interior ( bells and whistles) catagory than the GS but its pretty close.
Styling cues IMO are much better then the GS for a mid sized Luxury sedan. A few members are right Lexus needs to step up to the plate and deliver. I would consider a M anyday. I'm really considering a 06 or 07 M in the near future if my budget allows. The interior to me is almost as balanced as a new GS. The M may offer a bit more in the interior ( bells and whistles) catagory than the GS but its pretty close.
09-14-09, 02:34 AM
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Now having seen the pics at Infiniti, it doesn't look all that special. Seems like another mix of styling ques we've seen before plus a natural progression of the M styling. Center dash still has the pregnant ATM look, but now it's a stylish, pregnant ATM. Swoopy, sagging shoulderline reminds me of 1980's Buicks (soft and weak, like the center of the car is too heavy and breaking). Front end looks blunt and pug-nosed, just like the new Maxima.
Overall, not feeling Infiniti's design language.
Overall, not feeling Infiniti's design language.
09-14-09, 02:42 AM
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i should qualify what i said.
in the last 5 years, there hasn't been any mega buzz for a mainstream lexus sedan.
it has all been a big MEH. they're reliable and well built mostly. but they don't pique anyone's interest.
there hasn't been a lexus in recent times that has made me go "holy sht."
even when i first saw the LFA, i didn't go 'holy sht'. But for some reason, even though the Essence has a fish face, it made my jaw drop.
in the last 5 years, there hasn't been any mega buzz for a mainstream lexus sedan.
it has all been a big MEH. they're reliable and well built mostly. but they don't pique anyone's interest.
there hasn't been a lexus in recent times that has made me go "holy sht."
even when i first saw the LFA, i didn't go 'holy sht'. But for some reason, even though the Essence has a fish face, it made my jaw drop.
With the exception of the current SC, I think they've done a decent job with their current products and marketing.
09-14-09, 11:51 AM
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Trying to correlate big threads = enticing product is really silly.
I must be living under a rock, because outside of car enthusiast forums, I have seen NO buzz regarding the Essence. Autoshow buzz for the Essence has been nothing special so far.
Infiniti has not even shown the new M in person yet, so how could it *possibly* have large buzz, outside of some car forums?
i should qualify what i said.
in the last 5 years, there hasn't been any mega buzz for a mainstream lexus sedan.
it has all been a big MEH. they're reliable and well built mostly. but they don't pique anyone's interest.
there hasn't been a lexus in recent times that has made me go "holy sht."
even when i first saw the LFA, i didn't go 'holy sht'. But for some reason, even though the Essence has a fish face, it made my jaw drop.
in the last 5 years, there hasn't been any mega buzz for a mainstream lexus sedan.
it has all been a big MEH. they're reliable and well built mostly. but they don't pique anyone's interest.
there hasn't been a lexus in recent times that has made me go "holy sht."
even when i first saw the LFA, i didn't go 'holy sht'. But for some reason, even though the Essence has a fish face, it made my jaw drop.
Now having seen the pics at Infiniti, it doesn't look all that special. Seems like another mix of styling ques we've seen before plus a natural progression of the M styling. Center dash still has the pregnant ATM look, but now it's a stylish, pregnant ATM. Swoopy, sagging shoulderline reminds me of 1980's Buicks (soft and weak, like the center of the car is too heavy and breaking). Front end looks blunt and pug-nosed, just like the new Maxima.
Overall, not feeling Infiniti's design language.
Overall, not feeling Infiniti's design language.
09-14-09, 01:07 PM
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Agreed. The market seems to agree, so far the new Infiniti EX and FX (with Infiniti's new "wavy" design language) are selling quite poorly. Except for the G sedan and coupe, all other Infiniti products are selling quite poorly. We shall see how the new M does in the market.
yeah, we shall wait and see.
the GS does equally poorly right now. and outside the RX, there isn't another hot selling lexus SUV. The general public likes the RX formula, and hates the EX.
09-14-09, 03:25 PM
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The X5, MDX, and ML are all decent sales-wise, but none of them are "hot".
In my reply, I was talking about Infiniti's lineup in general. The FX and EX so far are the only new models putting Infiniti's new design language to full use. The G sedan/coupe don't really count, as they look too similar to their previous-gen models.
The M will be the first new Infiniti car/sedan making full use of the "wavy" styling theme, followed by the new QX.
It's also a problem for Infiniti that their lineup is comprised mostly of SUVs.
Lexus has the IS, ES, and RX as being good solid sellers, and the HS is set to join that list too.
09-14-09, 04:26 PM
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1. RX is BRAND NEW this year and the volume SUV
2. We have threads RIGHT NOW about the NEW GX. The current one is what on its 7th year?
3. The LX has been a very limited production model since 1995.
4. The GS is now in its what 5th year of production and is aging well. Sales are down big like everyone short of the 5/E class. I don't want my Lexus redesigned every 3/5 years with big changes like its a damn Honda. Its a luxury car.
09-17-09, 12:33 PM
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