I've not lost sight of anything, and quite frankly I think AMG/Sports Package options are a joke as well. Like you say we'll just have to wait and see if the actual price ends up anywhere near the estimated price I sure as hell hope they offers a whole lot more though than Brembos, BBS wheels and a body kit...

 

The LS can look very good with some adjustements

 

True...and I agree. Right now, an LS 460L Touring costs $83,000. Looking at this as a rough estimate/starting point, add to that BBS 20" wheels (~$3,500), tires ($1,500), a body kit (~$2,000), Brembo BBK (~$3,000), and some extra money for the other aerodynamic extras and you are already into the mid $90K mark.

Those are rough estimates for the cost of parts (they're also completely speculation), but just looking at the equipment alone, this will be an expensive car but it also seems like you're getting what you pay for if Lexus uses brands like Brembo and BBS.

 

I agree, and those aerodynamic aids probably do more harm than good.

As said above "The LS can look very good with some adjustments", careful selection of a few aftermarket mods can make a difference.

 

I'll take this 10 times outta 10!!!

 

Yes, you start with a good-looking, competent, high-quality sport/luxury sedan and the possibilities are endless..............

Certainly easier than making an ugly car passable.

 

I seriously doubt that it is slower, don't know where that came from. Fuel efficency is in how you drive and driven normally the 600hL has better fuel efficiency. But everyone has their opinions...

 

Lexus better add about a 100hp for the LS sport to warrant a $100k price tag.

 

Lexus states that the LS 600hL is 0-60 in 5.5, and the 460L is 5.4.

In my personal experience, the extra power that the 600hL has over the 460 is consumed by the AWD system and additional weight of the batteries, so while it has 58 more horsepower, it also has to lug around an extra 600 lbs. The 460 feels much quicker to me and while I know that hybrids feel deceptively quick because of their silent operation, I would bet money that a 460L would have the slight edge in a drag race.

Additionally, the LS 460 can easily surpass 30mpg on the highway, while I have never seen a 600hL break 25mpg. If you do a lot of city driving then I could see where the mileage might be advantageous in the 600hL but as for highway (which I mostly do), the 460 is a good 5-6mpg ahead of the hybrid.

As great as the 600hL is, the weight of the car really kills any performance or fuel efficiency over the 460L, unless again you do a lot of city driving.

 

It's not the 0-60 times, Sports Car International tested in 2007 the LS600hL 50-70mph passing speed is second only to the S600 with V12 + twin turbo, and faster than the other two naturally aspirated 12-cylinder sedans in the same class, the 760Li and A8 W12.

 

As Gojirra99 has pointed out it is not the 0-60 times that matter, sure it "may" loose a few tenths of the the line ,but it is clearly the faster and more responsive car. (I drive an LS460 when they do my schedualed services.) Acceleration on this car is incredible for its size.

As for your mileage, I really don't know where you are getting these numbers from　, as you seemed very misinformed. Around town driving (and nothing is more around town the in Japan with traffic signals every 100 yards) the 600 will get better way mileage and highway driving should see about the same if not better as well.
Have you driven a 600hL for a while to actually compare your driving habbits?

 

The AWD LS 460 is much slower than the 600h and is rated for 16/23. Keep in mind that Lexus has also is very conservative when it comes to the performance specs of their hybrids. For example, we know now that a number of a journalists have reported low 6 second 0-60 times for the RX450h. Lexus reports 7.3 seconds on their site.

 

Yes, I drove the car for a few hours, on and off, over a week. A coworker took a road trip in the 600hL and averaged no better than 24.3mpg on the highway at about 65mph. His wife, also a coworker of mine at the time, drove her LS 460L on the same route the following week and averaged 31.6mpg. I don't doubt that the 600hL has the edge in city driving, however.

 

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take_road_test

 

I have no doubt that the highway mileage for both these car will be very close, but you are comparing apples with oranges. My wife gets incredable mileage out the IS-F where as I get almost half of what she does when I drive it.(she raily drive the LS so I can't make that comparrison) So you really seriously can't expect to state those figures an say that the 600hL has worse fuel ecconomy, can you?