MT: 2010 SRX vs. RX 350
06-30-09, 11:01 AM
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MT: 2010 SRX vs. RX 350
Comparison: 2010 Cadillac SRX vs. 2010 Lexus RX 350
Tailfin Attitude Takes on Near-Perfection
Lexus is the best-selling luxury brand in the U.S., and the RX crossover is Lexus' best-selling model. It's the vehicle for everyone with money -- the practical people-mover for people with a multi-car garage full of exotics; the entry-luxury model for the upper-middle-class leasing slightly beyond their means; the wheels of choice for those who were lucky enough to get a second mortgage on their McMansions before the credit market imploded. This Lexus is for old money, too, its anonymous, transportation pod styling whispering, "We're too cool for a minivan."
Just imagine the profit margin for a model that starts a tad under $40k. In normal years, meaning before 2008, Lexus sold more than 100,000 RXes per year in the U.S. Lexus has been able to pour a lot of cash back into the relentless pursuit of beating less-reliable European crossovers into submission.
The 2010 Lexus RX 350 is the all-new Mk III model, following the 1999 Mk I and 2004 Mk II. It will continue to lead its segment and it will continue to be the best-selling Lexus. Big, body-on-frame SUVs may be so 2005, but crossovers are the latest thing, as if they've just been discovered.
They are a new discovery for Cadillac. The CTS aside, the GM luxury division's slow, decade-long comeback has rested on the back of its gargantuan Escalade body-on-frame sport/utility. The rear-drive Sigma-based SRX is classified as a crossover, but it's really more a tall, modern station wagon with optional all-wheel-drive. It's part of old, STS-Cadillac, not new, CTS-Cadillac. SRX sales were one-fifth of RX sales in 2007.
With the 2008 CTS giving New Cadillac renewed attitude, it's time to go after luxury's big kahuna. And so, the all-new 2010 Cadillac SRX switches to a front-drive platform, one using large bits of Epsilon II (Opel Insignia and 2010 Buick LaCrosse) and Theta (2010 Chevy Equinox/GMC Terrain) and shared with the upcoming Saab 9-4x (yes, production is still on).
Design is how Cadillac most seriously takes on the Lexus. Whereas the RX 350 is soft-looking and amorphous, the 2010 SRX is sharp, hard-edged and wedgy, playing Cadillac "Art & Science" design language to the hilt, from the vertically rectangular headlamp covers that extend to a point atop the front fenders to the LED taillamps designed to evoke 1950s tailfins.
SRX's new profile is pleasing to the eye, and not just ours, judging from the reaction of fellow motorists. It's only the dead-on rear view that betrays the limitations of making a tall two-box vehicle look sexy.
Inside, the RX 350 is visually unmemorable, defined by unsurpassed sumptuousness, fit, and finish.(Really? Because it's the most striking Lexus interior...possibly ever) The new better-than-iDrive mouse-controlled navigation/audio control keeps fingerprints off the screen, and a steering wheel button that turns on a camera under the passenger side-view mirror is a true surprise/delight feature.
The SRX interior, which borrows a lot from the CTS sedan, stands out for its looks (How so? it looks like every other interior in the GM stable- everything from the forthcoming Cruze to the new Saturns and Buicks). The stitched leather dash cover opens up to reveal brushed metal accents along the front part of the instrument panel cover, near the cowl. A slick instrument cluster control on the turn-signal stalk allows you to switch the center gauge between timer, average speed, fuel consumed, fuel economy, fuel range, trip odometer, speedometer, navigation, and a real-time readout that displays the speed limit on major roads -- including speed warnings for slower corners. It's a useful bit of what interior designers have come to call "theater." If you have the navigation system off, the CTS-monolith style nav screen pops up for the backup camera only as long as you're in reverse.
The center gauge also features two light pipes built into the binnacle that are turn-signal indicator repeaters, blinking green when you use the signal. It's a minor thing, a nice bit of post-modern flavor inside the crossover, and it might get more SRX drivers to use turn signals.
Here's the rub: The Lexus handily whips the Caddy's interior for quality, fit, and finish. The RX's soft, smooth leather would do an LS proud, while the SRX leather seems cost-controlled and maybe slightly cheaper than the CTS'. The SRX has power lumbar support for both driver and front passenger, but the SRX has a manual leg bolster for the driver and not the passenger. And when we pulled out that driver's bolster, the finish was sub-standard. Velcro for the inner leather (or, more likely, pleather) piece was undone, showing off some hard plastic pieces that were meant to be out of sight. The piece should have been sewed together at least.
The Cadillac driver's seat automatically slid back to its farthest position when we shut off the engine, even after we tried to reset it. And this revealed poorly finished seat tracks, exposing a connecting bolt.
The Lexus' rear seat moves fore and aft and reclines. The Cadillac's rear seat only reclines, and the ratchet control for it is on the seatback, inconveniently above the passengers' outboard shoulders. There's much more headroom in the RX, the result of both a thinner bottom cushion in the Lexus and the huge, optional vista sunroof in the Cadillac.
The Lexus has heated and cooled front seats, while the Caddy's are just heated. The price difference between the two could account for this (although a fully equipped 2010 Buick LaCrosse comes with cooled front seats, at less than $40k). The front-drive SRX starts about at $34,155. The Haldex all-wheel-drive comes only with other standard equipment, bringing base AWD models to $40,230. The SRX features several different packages, and so our tester begins at $45,820 and ends pretty nicely equipped, if sans cooled seats, just $1,295 more. The RX 350 base is $39,075. Our tester totaled $8,580 more than the Caddy. (Maybe if you could have done without options like the RSES, there wouldn't be such a discrepancy
)
No doubt we could option these two out with similar equipment for similar pricing. Point is, adding all the equipment to the Cadillac won't solve the shortcomings in refinement next to the Lexus.
The RX 350 is more isolated, with road impacts notably quieter and less harsh. The SRX's optional 20-inch wheels don't help. The Lexus is quicker, its 3.5-liter V-6 making just 10 more horses than the Cadillac's new 3.0-liter gas direct-injection V-6, but making 34 foot-pounds more torque, with better EPA and observed fuel economy.
The SRX is slightly longer and 127 pounds heavier than the RX 350, and feels like it. The Lexus accelerates out of turns more quickly, though the Cadillac feels pretty willing, its 3.0-liter giving off a pleasing snarl. The premium SRX engine, a 2.8-liter turbocharged gas direct-injection V-6 built in Australia and available only with AWD and the FE3 suspension, will be added in early fall, and will certainly bring both acceleration performance and price up to Lexus levels.
Which brings us to the turning point of this comparison, the Perry Mason moment. Remember how Mason could suddenly wear down a witness and get him/her to confess to the murder? How his grateful client would be quickly, cleanly exonerated?
The Cadillac SRX is more fun and rewarding to drive. (Because THAT is what matters! Duh!)
While the Lexus RX offers plenty of cornering grip, the Cadillac is more sharp-edged, a crossover designed to unwind the esses. Shift the much less-sporting RX's six-speed automatic into "sport" mode and it doesn't hold lower gears or behave differently than in normal mode. It does switch off the "Eco" mode, though.
The SRX's six-speed automatic's sport mode holds whichever gear you choose, and it changes the Sachs shocks' damping, as well. It's firmer than the RX without venturing into BMW X5 territory in terms of ride harshness. Steering provides good feel and feedback and is quicker than the RX 350's numb steering. The Cadillac's brakes are better and firmer than the Lexus' brakes.
Simply put, the new Cadillac SRX drives the way it looks: sexy, fun, apart from the pack. It's full of brand flavor, even if budget shortcuts reveal ragged edges under some of the covers. The Lexus RX 350 drives the way it looks, too: almost annoyingly competent. Cushy and comfortable, reliable and unobtrusive.
Those of you who value Lexus' "relentless pursuit of perfection" will
puzzle over our values in choosing this comparison's winner. Those of you who understand how we value entertaining driving dynamics over all else will understand. The '10 Cadillac SRX is refined enough to overlook its shortcomings and take over the Lexus RX 350 because it's the luxury crossover we'd prefer to look at and drive, every day (Really? That's odd, because you made it clear that the interior has the refinement of a Toyota Echo above.). If Cadillac could close its refinement gap with Lexus, the new SRX crossover would be unbeatable in the marketplace.
First Place: Cadillac SRX
Good dynamics with a nice ride-handling compromise overcome refinement shortcomings. Turns out that Cadillac style and attitude work in this segment.
Second Place: Lexus RX 350
This is the benchmark for refinement and sumptuousness in luxury vehicles under $60,000. You will remember feeling coddled; you will immediately forget the drive experience.
Tailfin Attitude Takes on Near-Perfection
Lexus is the best-selling luxury brand in the U.S., and the RX crossover is Lexus' best-selling model. It's the vehicle for everyone with money -- the practical people-mover for people with a multi-car garage full of exotics; the entry-luxury model for the upper-middle-class leasing slightly beyond their means; the wheels of choice for those who were lucky enough to get a second mortgage on their McMansions before the credit market imploded. This Lexus is for old money, too, its anonymous, transportation pod styling whispering, "We're too cool for a minivan."
Just imagine the profit margin for a model that starts a tad under $40k. In normal years, meaning before 2008, Lexus sold more than 100,000 RXes per year in the U.S. Lexus has been able to pour a lot of cash back into the relentless pursuit of beating less-reliable European crossovers into submission.
The 2010 Lexus RX 350 is the all-new Mk III model, following the 1999 Mk I and 2004 Mk II. It will continue to lead its segment and it will continue to be the best-selling Lexus. Big, body-on-frame SUVs may be so 2005, but crossovers are the latest thing, as if they've just been discovered.
They are a new discovery for Cadillac. The CTS aside, the GM luxury division's slow, decade-long comeback has rested on the back of its gargantuan Escalade body-on-frame sport/utility. The rear-drive Sigma-based SRX is classified as a crossover, but it's really more a tall, modern station wagon with optional all-wheel-drive. It's part of old, STS-Cadillac, not new, CTS-Cadillac. SRX sales were one-fifth of RX sales in 2007.
With the 2008 CTS giving New Cadillac renewed attitude, it's time to go after luxury's big kahuna. And so, the all-new 2010 Cadillac SRX switches to a front-drive platform, one using large bits of Epsilon II (Opel Insignia and 2010 Buick LaCrosse) and Theta (2010 Chevy Equinox/GMC Terrain) and shared with the upcoming Saab 9-4x (yes, production is still on).
Design is how Cadillac most seriously takes on the Lexus. Whereas the RX 350 is soft-looking and amorphous, the 2010 SRX is sharp, hard-edged and wedgy, playing Cadillac "Art & Science" design language to the hilt, from the vertically rectangular headlamp covers that extend to a point atop the front fenders to the LED taillamps designed to evoke 1950s tailfins.
SRX's new profile is pleasing to the eye, and not just ours, judging from the reaction of fellow motorists. It's only the dead-on rear view that betrays the limitations of making a tall two-box vehicle look sexy.
Inside, the RX 350 is visually unmemorable, defined by unsurpassed sumptuousness, fit, and finish.(Really? Because it's the most striking Lexus interior...possibly ever) The new better-than-iDrive mouse-controlled navigation/audio control keeps fingerprints off the screen, and a steering wheel button that turns on a camera under the passenger side-view mirror is a true surprise/delight feature.
The SRX interior, which borrows a lot from the CTS sedan, stands out for its looks (How so? it looks like every other interior in the GM stable- everything from the forthcoming Cruze to the new Saturns and Buicks). The stitched leather dash cover opens up to reveal brushed metal accents along the front part of the instrument panel cover, near the cowl. A slick instrument cluster control on the turn-signal stalk allows you to switch the center gauge between timer, average speed, fuel consumed, fuel economy, fuel range, trip odometer, speedometer, navigation, and a real-time readout that displays the speed limit on major roads -- including speed warnings for slower corners. It's a useful bit of what interior designers have come to call "theater." If you have the navigation system off, the CTS-monolith style nav screen pops up for the backup camera only as long as you're in reverse.
The center gauge also features two light pipes built into the binnacle that are turn-signal indicator repeaters, blinking green when you use the signal. It's a minor thing, a nice bit of post-modern flavor inside the crossover, and it might get more SRX drivers to use turn signals.
Here's the rub: The Lexus handily whips the Caddy's interior for quality, fit, and finish. The RX's soft, smooth leather would do an LS proud, while the SRX leather seems cost-controlled and maybe slightly cheaper than the CTS'. The SRX has power lumbar support for both driver and front passenger, but the SRX has a manual leg bolster for the driver and not the passenger. And when we pulled out that driver's bolster, the finish was sub-standard. Velcro for the inner leather (or, more likely, pleather) piece was undone, showing off some hard plastic pieces that were meant to be out of sight. The piece should have been sewed together at least.
The Cadillac driver's seat automatically slid back to its farthest position when we shut off the engine, even after we tried to reset it. And this revealed poorly finished seat tracks, exposing a connecting bolt.
The Lexus' rear seat moves fore and aft and reclines. The Cadillac's rear seat only reclines, and the ratchet control for it is on the seatback, inconveniently above the passengers' outboard shoulders. There's much more headroom in the RX, the result of both a thinner bottom cushion in the Lexus and the huge, optional vista sunroof in the Cadillac.
The Lexus has heated and cooled front seats, while the Caddy's are just heated. The price difference between the two could account for this (although a fully equipped 2010 Buick LaCrosse comes with cooled front seats, at less than $40k). The front-drive SRX starts about at $34,155. The Haldex all-wheel-drive comes only with other standard equipment, bringing base AWD models to $40,230. The SRX features several different packages, and so our tester begins at $45,820 and ends pretty nicely equipped, if sans cooled seats, just $1,295 more. The RX 350 base is $39,075. Our tester totaled $8,580 more than the Caddy. (Maybe if you could have done without options like the RSES, there wouldn't be such a discrepancy
)No doubt we could option these two out with similar equipment for similar pricing. Point is, adding all the equipment to the Cadillac won't solve the shortcomings in refinement next to the Lexus.
The RX 350 is more isolated, with road impacts notably quieter and less harsh. The SRX's optional 20-inch wheels don't help. The Lexus is quicker, its 3.5-liter V-6 making just 10 more horses than the Cadillac's new 3.0-liter gas direct-injection V-6, but making 34 foot-pounds more torque, with better EPA and observed fuel economy.
The SRX is slightly longer and 127 pounds heavier than the RX 350, and feels like it. The Lexus accelerates out of turns more quickly, though the Cadillac feels pretty willing, its 3.0-liter giving off a pleasing snarl. The premium SRX engine, a 2.8-liter turbocharged gas direct-injection V-6 built in Australia and available only with AWD and the FE3 suspension, will be added in early fall, and will certainly bring both acceleration performance and price up to Lexus levels.
Which brings us to the turning point of this comparison, the Perry Mason moment. Remember how Mason could suddenly wear down a witness and get him/her to confess to the murder? How his grateful client would be quickly, cleanly exonerated?
The Cadillac SRX is more fun and rewarding to drive. (Because THAT is what matters! Duh!)
While the Lexus RX offers plenty of cornering grip, the Cadillac is more sharp-edged, a crossover designed to unwind the esses. Shift the much less-sporting RX's six-speed automatic into "sport" mode and it doesn't hold lower gears or behave differently than in normal mode. It does switch off the "Eco" mode, though.
The SRX's six-speed automatic's sport mode holds whichever gear you choose, and it changes the Sachs shocks' damping, as well. It's firmer than the RX without venturing into BMW X5 territory in terms of ride harshness. Steering provides good feel and feedback and is quicker than the RX 350's numb steering. The Cadillac's brakes are better and firmer than the Lexus' brakes.
Simply put, the new Cadillac SRX drives the way it looks: sexy, fun, apart from the pack. It's full of brand flavor, even if budget shortcuts reveal ragged edges under some of the covers. The Lexus RX 350 drives the way it looks, too: almost annoyingly competent. Cushy and comfortable, reliable and unobtrusive.
Those of you who value Lexus' "relentless pursuit of perfection" will
puzzle over our values in choosing this comparison's winner. Those of you who understand how we value entertaining driving dynamics over all else will understand. The '10 Cadillac SRX is refined enough to overlook its shortcomings and take over the Lexus RX 350 because it's the luxury crossover we'd prefer to look at and drive, every day (Really? That's odd, because you made it clear that the interior has the refinement of a Toyota Echo above.). If Cadillac could close its refinement gap with Lexus, the new SRX crossover would be unbeatable in the marketplace.
First Place: Cadillac SRX
Good dynamics with a nice ride-handling compromise overcome refinement shortcomings. Turns out that Cadillac style and attitude work in this segment.
Second Place: Lexus RX 350
This is the benchmark for refinement and sumptuousness in luxury vehicles under $60,000. You will remember feeling coddled; you will immediately forget the drive experience.
06-30-09, 11:11 AM
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Not to mention that the numbers would lead you to a very different conclusion:
...............................2010 Cadillac SRX.............................2010 Lexus RX 350
Power (SAE net)........... 265 hp @ 6950 rpm.................. 275 hp @ 6200 rpm
Torque (SAE net) ......... 223 lb-ft @ 5100 rpm.............. 257 lb-ft @ 4700 rpm
Weight to power............. 17.3 lb/hp................................ 16.2 lb/hp
Cargo vol behind f/r.......... 61.2/29.2 cu ft..................... 80.3/40.0 cu ft
0-60.............................. 8.6........................................... 6.7
Passing, 45-65 mph.............. 4.5 sec.................................. 3.5
Quarter mile................. 16.8 sec @ 83.9 mph................ 15.1 sec @ 91.0 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph.............. 119 ft............................... 131 ft
MT obs fuel econ..................... 15.8 mpg.............................. 18.3 mpg
...............................2010 Cadillac SRX.............................2010 Lexus RX 350
Power (SAE net)........... 265 hp @ 6950 rpm.................. 275 hp @ 6200 rpm
Torque (SAE net) ......... 223 lb-ft @ 5100 rpm.............. 257 lb-ft @ 4700 rpm
Weight to power............. 17.3 lb/hp................................ 16.2 lb/hp
Cargo vol behind f/r.......... 61.2/29.2 cu ft..................... 80.3/40.0 cu ft
0-60.............................. 8.6........................................... 6.7
Passing, 45-65 mph.............. 4.5 sec.................................. 3.5
Quarter mile................. 16.8 sec @ 83.9 mph................ 15.1 sec @ 91.0 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph.............. 119 ft............................... 131 ft
MT obs fuel econ..................... 15.8 mpg.............................. 18.3 mpg
06-30-09, 11:28 AM
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Interesting. Anyone else think this review reeked of bias? 
The Lexus RX performs better and is more efficient - and yet it lost out because of fun-factor and dynamics? I've not touched a Motor Trend magazine in ages but I hear they're going down the drain.
I'm sure the Lexus has competent driving dynamics. Nothing extremely sporty but probably not as soft as most magazines describe it to be. I don't doubt that the Cadillac SRX is sportier and the better handler, but does it really matter in this niche? I don't think so. These are family-oriented cars and my money says that the vast majority of buyers won't "overdo" it when it comes to handling and driving in a sporty manor.
The Lexus RX performs better and is more efficient - and yet it lost out because of fun-factor and dynamics? I've not touched a Motor Trend magazine in ages but I hear they're going down the drain.
I'm sure the Lexus has competent driving dynamics. Nothing extremely sporty but probably not as soft as most magazines describe it to be. I don't doubt that the Cadillac SRX is sportier and the better handler, but does it really matter in this niche? I don't think so. These are family-oriented cars and my money says that the vast majority of buyers won't "overdo" it when it comes to handling and driving in a sporty manor.
06-30-09, 11:33 AM
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Can't say there's any bias. They pointed out the strengths and weaknesses of both cars. What it came down to was their criteria for a winner which was in the driving dynamics. Granted, that's not what most people value most but it's what they were looking for.
06-30-09, 11:34 AM
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Good lord, the SRX has NOTHING on the RX350 except braking but goes home winning the comparo...
I've been saying this before, MT is desparate to sell its magazines and they'll, and have been, put out whacky comparo results just for that...
I can probably, PROBABLY, understand that driving experience outweighs everything else if we are talking about a sports car (not even sports sedan) here but a luxury crossover? Who gives the **** about that!
I've been saying this before, MT is desparate to sell its magazines and they'll, and have been, put out whacky comparo results just for that...
I can probably, PROBABLY, understand that driving experience outweighs everything else if we are talking about a sports car (not even sports sedan) here but a luxury crossover? Who gives the **** about that!
06-30-09, 11:37 AM
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So perhaps Toyota/Lexus should retool their vehicles to offer competent road manners if they want to woo the world automotive press, which *Shockingly* - yes, do consider vehicle dynamics as very important. The RX is what it is - it's a nice car, but it lacks any sort of organic feel. Poor road feel, poor steering, and just poor overall competence. It's just not a vehicle you throw around a corner and expect to be gratified with. For anyone seeking these characteristics (read: the world automotive press), Lexus is going to loose some serious points, which again, is hardly surprising.
Perhaps we should be asking why Lexus continues to fail to embark on making any progress in this regard. Every single car in the lineup sans the IS-F is a coddling, highway cruiser, and the ones which try and out-BMW BMW (read: IS350/GS460) feel more automated and computerized than hal2000 on steroids (VDIM) when you push them. The thing is, MP, when you drive cars like the Q5 Audi, you start to understand how qualities like "interior quality, ride quality, gas mileage, and technology" can be sufficiently included along with on-road driving abilities that aren’t as hard-edged as a BMW, but still highly respectable and sufficient. That’s why Lexus is going to be forced to do better going forward – the market, and even the press are going to dictate it as vehicles start to match the cushy isolated image of a Lexus, but also don’t penalize you in a bend for it.
Perhaps we should be asking why Lexus continues to fail to embark on making any progress in this regard. Every single car in the lineup sans the IS-F is a coddling, highway cruiser, and the ones which try and out-BMW BMW (read: IS350/GS460) feel more automated and computerized than hal2000 on steroids (VDIM) when you push them. The thing is, MP, when you drive cars like the Q5 Audi, you start to understand how qualities like "interior quality, ride quality, gas mileage, and technology" can be sufficiently included along with on-road driving abilities that aren’t as hard-edged as a BMW, but still highly respectable and sufficient. That’s why Lexus is going to be forced to do better going forward – the market, and even the press are going to dictate it as vehicles start to match the cushy isolated image of a Lexus, but also don’t penalize you in a bend for it.
06-30-09, 11:38 AM
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I don't doubt that the Cadillac SRX is sportier and the better handler, but does it really matter in this niche? I don't think so. These are family-oriented cars and my money says that the vast majority of buyers won't "overdo" it when it comes to handling and driving in a sporty manor.
Originally Posted by ffPowerLN
I can probably, PROBABLY, understand that driving experience outweighs everything else if we are talking about a sports car (not even sports sedan) here but a luxury crossover? Who gives the **** about that!
What's next? Minivan comparo where the first one to pull .90G on the skidpad wins?
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06-30-09, 11:38 AM
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Cliffnotes - The RX is boring, but is better in all categories except for braking. But it loses because it's boring.
If I wanted a SUV that got me places comfortably I'd go for the RX. If I wanted a sportier SUV I'd go for a X5 before the SRX. I'm still iffy on iDrive but at least I know it will be built better.
If I wanted a SUV that got me places comfortably I'd go for the RX. If I wanted a sportier SUV I'd go for a X5 before the SRX. I'm still iffy on iDrive but at least I know it will be built better.
06-30-09, 11:42 AM
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06-30-09, 11:43 AM
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Perhaps we should be asking why Lexus continues to fail to embark on making any progress in this regard. Every single car in the lineup sans the IS-F is a coddling, highway cruiser, and the ones which try and out-BMW BMW (read: IS350/GS460) feel more automated and computerized than hal2000 on steroids (VDIM) when you push them. The thing is, MP, when you drive cars like the Q5 Audi, you start to understand how qualities like "interior quality, ride quality, gas mileage, and technology" can be sufficiently included along with on-road driving abilities that aren’t as hard-edged as a BMW, but still highly respectable and sufficient. That’s why Lexus is going to be forced to do better going forward – the market, and even the press are going to dictate it as vehicles start to match the cushy isolated image of a Lexus, but also don’t penalize you in a bend for it.
Time and sales statistics will tell who truly has the most effective, successful formula. As for SRX vs. RX though, I find that one hard to take seriously, and I don't even think you can necessarily disagree when considering what is important to the people who buy these vehicles.
06-30-09, 11:44 AM
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Geez, for the last time...
Lexus was never trying to out-anyone anyone.
YES, Lexus competes in the same segment as the others but that doesn't mean they have to build another BMW 3-series or 5-series.
For crying out loud if you don't like it then go buy the ****ing BMW but at least for me I don't want a BMW 3/5-series, if I want one I'll head to my BMW dealership instead of Lexus.
Seriously, how hard is this concept to comprehend even with half of a working brain?
Lexus was never trying to out-anyone anyone.
YES, Lexus competes in the same segment as the others but that doesn't mean they have to build another BMW 3-series or 5-series.
For crying out loud if you don't like it then go buy the ****ing BMW but at least for me I don't want a BMW 3/5-series, if I want one I'll head to my BMW dealership instead of Lexus.
Seriously, how hard is this concept to comprehend even with half of a working brain?
06-30-09, 11:48 AM
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As far as the RX is concerned, Lexus is probably in no rush to make it into anything other than what it is. The thing sells like crazy - They're hitting their target market on this vehicle.
May '09/Year-to date sales = 7,462/36,960.
On the Q5 for example = 1,415/4,377
May '09/Year-to date sales = 7,462/36,960.
On the Q5 for example = 1,415/4,377
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Not to mention that the numbers would lead you to a very different conclusion:
...............................2010 Cadillac SRX.............................2010 Lexus RX 350
Power (SAE net)........... 265 hp @ 6950 rpm.................. 275 hp @ 6200 rpm
Torque (SAE net) ......... 223 lb-ft @ 5100 rpm.............. 257 lb-ft @ 4700 rpm
Weight to power............. 17.3 lb/hp................................ 16.2 lb/hp
Cargo vol behind f/r.......... 61.2/29.2 cu ft..................... 80.3/40.0 cu ft
0-60.............................. 8.6........................................... 6.7
Passing, 45-65 mph.............. 4.5 sec.................................. 3.5
Quarter mile................. 16.8 sec @ 83.9 mph................ 15.1 sec @ 91.0 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph.............. 119 ft............................... 131 ft
MT obs fuel econ..................... 15.8 mpg.............................. 18.3 mpg
...............................2010 Cadillac SRX.............................2010 Lexus RX 350
Power (SAE net)........... 265 hp @ 6950 rpm.................. 275 hp @ 6200 rpm
Torque (SAE net) ......... 223 lb-ft @ 5100 rpm.............. 257 lb-ft @ 4700 rpm
Weight to power............. 17.3 lb/hp................................ 16.2 lb/hp
Cargo vol behind f/r.......... 61.2/29.2 cu ft..................... 80.3/40.0 cu ft
0-60.............................. 8.6........................................... 6.7
Passing, 45-65 mph.............. 4.5 sec.................................. 3.5
Quarter mile................. 16.8 sec @ 83.9 mph................ 15.1 sec @ 91.0 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph.............. 119 ft............................... 131 ft
MT obs fuel econ..................... 15.8 mpg.............................. 18.3 mpg
Bias? YES
