f=ma

Do you really need it for daily commuting?

RXSF

guess not, but the perforated ones look cool and they provide better wet braking, and the ventilated ones also provide better braking. German cars tend to have both of these, and lexus skimps on having ventilated rears.

Dave600hL

Is it just me or is a lot of people failing to see that the majority of the pulic that will be buying this car not really care that is has a certain type grill and "A" type lines??? ****, if you asked one of them they would probably say, "I can't see any lines, where are they drawn?...". Most people here are car enthusiasts, but "we" are in the minority, especially in Japan. So it makes sense that they make a car that does not make a too bold of a statement, b/c believe it or not some people don't want to stick out from the crowd.

Anyway, keep beating down on it like the IS convertible and as we all know those are selling like hotcakes... And so will these. (BTW, I won't be buying one)

I am actually liking this car due to the great interior and technology for an entry level car, as this can only mean better cars from lexus in the future.

xknowonex

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Thats how a Corolla should look!

LexFather

Dogmeat

Well not sure about the pricing of this car, but from pictures the interior looks great. I'll be sure to go test drive it and check it out.

I read though that the back seats don't fold down, which is unfortunate. The prius is extremely useful in that regard. Something I wish my IS would be able to do as well.

bitkahuna

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the car has good ride/handling and a lot of tech. it took too many ugly pills during development though.

The G Man

If this HS were not a Hybrid sedan, it would probably be a $22000 car or something in that range. Lexus gave it leather seats and a L Logo and a Hybrid power train and bump the price $40000. Lets me ask you this, would you pay $18000 for leather seat and a set of batteries?
Knowing Lexus, this car will sell well just like the IS convertible. Lexus either really knows the US market or people are just buying these cars because of Lexus pass reputation.

RXSF

all luxury cars arent worth their actual price. But the L logo if worth more than you think.

but really, 22K is a bit low, seeing as how the hybrid camry starts at 26, and this has the same powertrain with more hybrid tech include the heat exhaust recovery and what not. And lets not exagerate the price. it starts at 26K, with standard leather, so thats really only a 10K premium for the L logo, which has more standard luxury and safety options than the camry. So in reality, its really a 5K premium and thats worth it to me

The G Man

I think the Camry is bigger and looks better than the HS, its more like a Corolla size hybrid like someone already said. Top of the line Corollas goes for about $22000.

IS-SV

I agree, the Camry is much more attractive than many of its competitors.

rominl

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please don't make me remove more posts. thanks

flipside909

The Camry and the HS are in two different categories and targeted towards two very different demographics.

The HS is a small big car. Looks small on the outside, but very roomy and spacious on the inside. The Corolla is actually a lot smaller than the HS250h. I will take some pictures today of a Corolla and an HS side by side and show you that they are drastically different in size.

Just as a point of reference, my IS F is smaller interior wise than the Corolla. Here's a pic of the HS next to a 1st Gen IS and my IS F. The HS has tons more room inside and is larger on the outside.

The G Man

The HS looks about the same size as your IS-F, which means its tiny inside.

flipside909

I'll have a better photo of the HS next to my IS F later on. The HS is a lot taller and longer than my IS F. The HS in size fits between the IS and the ES.

What you see in pics are a bit deceiving. Have you ever been in an HS before?