2011 Ferrari 458 Italia - 560hp@9000rpm V8, 7 speed dual clutch
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2011 Ferrari 458 Italia - 560hp@9000rpm V8, 7 speed dual clutch
These are the first official pictures and details of the Ferrari 458 Italia - the replacement for the Ferrari F430.
The Ferrari 458 Italia draws inspiration from the Enzo and takes a new look influenced by the Mille Chili concept car.
Ferrari 458 Italia picture gallery
Ferrari has confirmed that the car, codenamed F142 and long rumoured to be named the F450, will be called the 458 Italia. The name derives from the powerplant: a 4.5-litre V8 which Ferrari claims has the highest specific output of any normally aspirated car engine.
It certainly has more in common with superbikes than cars; at 127bhp per litre, the specific output is greater than that of many turbocharged engines.
The high-revving 4498cc V8 has very light internal parts and tiny piston skirts, resulting in low rotation inertia and a 12.5:1 compression ratio. It puts out 562bhp at 9000rpm, 500rpm higher than the 430. That makes it the highest-revving Ferrari road car ever.
It means the 458 Italia will be ferociously fast, and Ferrari claims it will sprint to 62mph in under 3.4sec on its way to a top speed of “over 200mph”.
While advanced engine electronics and lightweight parts underpin the extra performance, this will be the first mid-engined application of Ferrari’s direct injection fuel system, which appeared first on the front-engined California. It also runs Ferrari’s now-traditional flat-plane crankshaft.
The 458’s engine will be one of the most flexible in Ferrari’s history, too, with 398lb ft of torque arriving at 6000rpm. While that sounds peaky, it’s only two-thirds of the way through the 458’s rev range, and over 80 per cent (318lb ft) is available from 3250rpm.
The direct fuel injection has also helped cut CO2 emissions, producing a claimed 320g/km of CO2, even though it is faster and produces significantly more power than the 483bhp F430 and the 508bhp 430 Scuderia.
Dual-clutch ’box
Ferrari learned a lot developing the seven-speed dual-clutch gearbox for the California and it has had to do even more development to fit the unit into the 458 Italia’s engine bay, under the curvaceous glasshouse.
The dual-clutch unit from the California has been modified with different ratios and now shifts even faster than the 430 Scuderia’s 0.06sec. The gearbox’s shift style is likely to be slightly more aggressive than the California’s.
The E-Diff differential and the F1-Trac skid control system have long been the flagship carryover technologies from Formula 1, but the 458 Italia takes them even further and adds another piece of F1-derived technology to the brakes.
Instead of using individual ECUs for the E-Diff and F1-Trac, the 458 Italia has one ECU to control both (as well as the ABS system), resulting in streamlined processing and communication. Ferrari claims a 32 per cent increase in acceleration over the F430 (itself no slouch) out of corners.
The brakes feature a new system called ‘prefill’. When the driver’s foot lifts off the throttle, the pistons in the calipers move the pads towards the discs; that helps to reduce the stopping distance from 62mph to just 32.5 metres.
Aluminium chassis
Ferrari has used its experience from designing the 430 Scuderia’s suspension to create the 458 Italia’s double wishbone front set-up and multi-link rear end, all bolted directly to the aluminium chassis. It’s been developed with the help of Michael Schumacher, who was spotted testing the car.
Ferrari has close ties to aluminium specialist Alcoa, which has built a factory near Modena to produce chassis for the firm. The 458 Italia’s frame uses ideas from both the 430 Scuderia and the Mille Chili concept car.
It uses more advanced bonding techniques than the 430 did, along with manufacturing processes more in line with the aero industry.
F1 wind tunnel
While the 458 was designed by Pininfarina, the shape has been developed using Ferrari’s F1 wind tunnel. The bases of the black intakes in the front bumper deform at speed, closing up the intakes and reducing drag. These intakes also provide downforce and feed air though the radiators ahead of the front wheels.
The car’s shape makes air curve around the cabin and run over the integrated tail spoiler. The flat undertray enhances the effects of the rear diffuser to create 140kg of downforce at 125mph.
Inside, the 458 Italia will take the opportunity created by the more luxurious California to become the sportiest V8 in the family. Ferrari says the steering wheel and dashboard are “new innovations in production cars”; expect a development of the firm’s wheel-mounted manettino switch.
The 458 will be built alongside the California in a new production facility at Maranello.
The car will be launched at the Frankfurt motor show next month and is expected to go on sale in the UK next spring. It will be more expensive than the F430, so expect prices to start at around £150,000.
The Ferrari 458 Italia draws inspiration from the Enzo and takes a new look influenced by the Mille Chili concept car.
Ferrari 458 Italia picture gallery
Ferrari has confirmed that the car, codenamed F142 and long rumoured to be named the F450, will be called the 458 Italia. The name derives from the powerplant: a 4.5-litre V8 which Ferrari claims has the highest specific output of any normally aspirated car engine.
It certainly has more in common with superbikes than cars; at 127bhp per litre, the specific output is greater than that of many turbocharged engines.
The high-revving 4498cc V8 has very light internal parts and tiny piston skirts, resulting in low rotation inertia and a 12.5:1 compression ratio. It puts out 562bhp at 9000rpm, 500rpm higher than the 430. That makes it the highest-revving Ferrari road car ever.
It means the 458 Italia will be ferociously fast, and Ferrari claims it will sprint to 62mph in under 3.4sec on its way to a top speed of “over 200mph”.
While advanced engine electronics and lightweight parts underpin the extra performance, this will be the first mid-engined application of Ferrari’s direct injection fuel system, which appeared first on the front-engined California. It also runs Ferrari’s now-traditional flat-plane crankshaft.
The 458’s engine will be one of the most flexible in Ferrari’s history, too, with 398lb ft of torque arriving at 6000rpm. While that sounds peaky, it’s only two-thirds of the way through the 458’s rev range, and over 80 per cent (318lb ft) is available from 3250rpm.
The direct fuel injection has also helped cut CO2 emissions, producing a claimed 320g/km of CO2, even though it is faster and produces significantly more power than the 483bhp F430 and the 508bhp 430 Scuderia.
Dual-clutch ’box
Ferrari learned a lot developing the seven-speed dual-clutch gearbox for the California and it has had to do even more development to fit the unit into the 458 Italia’s engine bay, under the curvaceous glasshouse.
The dual-clutch unit from the California has been modified with different ratios and now shifts even faster than the 430 Scuderia’s 0.06sec. The gearbox’s shift style is likely to be slightly more aggressive than the California’s.
The E-Diff differential and the F1-Trac skid control system have long been the flagship carryover technologies from Formula 1, but the 458 Italia takes them even further and adds another piece of F1-derived technology to the brakes.
Instead of using individual ECUs for the E-Diff and F1-Trac, the 458 Italia has one ECU to control both (as well as the ABS system), resulting in streamlined processing and communication. Ferrari claims a 32 per cent increase in acceleration over the F430 (itself no slouch) out of corners.
The brakes feature a new system called ‘prefill’. When the driver’s foot lifts off the throttle, the pistons in the calipers move the pads towards the discs; that helps to reduce the stopping distance from 62mph to just 32.5 metres.
Aluminium chassis
Ferrari has used its experience from designing the 430 Scuderia’s suspension to create the 458 Italia’s double wishbone front set-up and multi-link rear end, all bolted directly to the aluminium chassis. It’s been developed with the help of Michael Schumacher, who was spotted testing the car.
Ferrari has close ties to aluminium specialist Alcoa, which has built a factory near Modena to produce chassis for the firm. The 458 Italia’s frame uses ideas from both the 430 Scuderia and the Mille Chili concept car.
It uses more advanced bonding techniques than the 430 did, along with manufacturing processes more in line with the aero industry.
F1 wind tunnel
While the 458 was designed by Pininfarina, the shape has been developed using Ferrari’s F1 wind tunnel. The bases of the black intakes in the front bumper deform at speed, closing up the intakes and reducing drag. These intakes also provide downforce and feed air though the radiators ahead of the front wheels.
The car’s shape makes air curve around the cabin and run over the integrated tail spoiler. The flat undertray enhances the effects of the rear diffuser to create 140kg of downforce at 125mph.
Inside, the 458 Italia will take the opportunity created by the more luxurious California to become the sportiest V8 in the family. Ferrari says the steering wheel and dashboard are “new innovations in production cars”; expect a development of the firm’s wheel-mounted manettino switch.
The 458 will be built alongside the California in a new production facility at Maranello.
The car will be launched at the Frankfurt motor show next month and is expected to go on sale in the UK next spring. It will be more expensive than the F430, so expect prices to start at around £150,000.
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I guess Ferrari brought LFA to the market before Lexus.
This has design cues of LFA all over and engine looks similar on paper at least 560hp and 9000rpm minus two cylinders.
It's lightweight aluminum chassis makes its dry weight of only 3036lbs
This has design cues of LFA all over and engine looks similar on paper at least 560hp and 9000rpm minus two cylinders.
It's lightweight aluminum chassis makes its dry weight of only 3036lbs
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I think it looks like a F430/ Mitsu Eclipse from side shot. Those numbers are impressive.
What is the price for 458 Italia?
What is the price for LFA?
I think the front & rear 3/4 shots look lil strange. I would rather take the DBS Vanquish in this price range. Gotta hand it to Ferrari to get this car out before Lexus. WHy did it take Lexus 6 or 7 yrs. to get the LFA out?
What is the price for 458 Italia?
What is the price for LFA?
I think the front & rear 3/4 shots look lil strange. I would rather take the DBS Vanquish in this price range. Gotta hand it to Ferrari to get this car out before Lexus. WHy did it take Lexus 6 or 7 yrs. to get the LFA out?
Last edited by PAULGS430; 07-28-09 at 07:12 AM.
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Man.... this thing is going to be stupid fast..... A scant ~250lbs more than the scuderia, but ith 50 more hp on tap........ that'd make the power to weight just about the same....
On that note....
vs
Any body still think the LF-A really weighs ~1500kg? (Hint... Carbin Fibre chassis weighs less than an Al one)
On that note....
Ferrari 458 Italia – Technical specifications Dimensions
Length 4527 mm (178.2 in.)
Width 1937 mm (76.3 in.)
Height 1213 mm (47.8 in.)
Wheelbase 2650 mm (104.3 in.)
Dry weight 1380 kg (3042 lbs)*
Weight/power ratio 2,42 kg/CV (7.16 lbs/kW)
Weight distribution fr/r 42%/58%
Length 4527 mm (178.2 in.)
Width 1937 mm (76.3 in.)
Height 1213 mm (47.8 in.)
Wheelbase 2650 mm (104.3 in.)
Dry weight 1380 kg (3042 lbs)*
Weight/power ratio 2,42 kg/CV (7.16 lbs/kW)
Weight distribution fr/r 42%/58%
Lexus LF-A concept
Dimensions (inches)
Overall Length: 175.6
Overall Width: 74.6
Overall Height: 48.0
Wheelbase: 102.3
Dimensions (inches)
Overall Length: 175.6
Overall Width: 74.6
Overall Height: 48.0
Wheelbase: 102.3
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Very interesting...
Looking at the specs this looks like the most direct competitor to the LFA, and it will be a very interesting fight when the time comes, I am sure.
That said, even though Ferrari is long considered a pioneer in sports car design, the LFA familiarities are really quite hard to ignore here. The entire rear end is very indicative of the Lexus, though the rest of the car is very curvy while the LFA is more about sharp edges.
All in all, the curves are a bit too much here IMO. The F430 has the right proportions, lines, and curves whereas this thing looks like it's flowing all over the place. The design of the F430 looks more "contained" in some ways.
Looking at the specs this looks like the most direct competitor to the LFA, and it will be a very interesting fight when the time comes, I am sure.
That said, even though Ferrari is long considered a pioneer in sports car design, the LFA familiarities are really quite hard to ignore here. The entire rear end is very indicative of the Lexus, though the rest of the car is very curvy while the LFA is more about sharp edges.
All in all, the curves are a bit too much here IMO. The F430 has the right proportions, lines, and curves whereas this thing looks like it's flowing all over the place. The design of the F430 looks more "contained" in some ways.
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Man.... this thing is going to be stupid fast..... A scant ~250lbs more than the scuderia, but ith 50 more hp on tap........ that'd make the power to weight just about the same....
On that note....
vs
Any body still think the LF-A really weighs ~1500kg? (Hint... Carbin Fibre chassis weighs less than an Al one)
On that note....
vs
Any body still think the LF-A really weighs ~1500kg? (Hint... Carbin Fibre chassis weighs less than an Al one)
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What is the price for 458 Italia?
What is the price for LFA?
What is the price for LFA?
Well the rumor for the LFA is 400 which would be ridiculous considering you Could probably get this for less
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not that i have the cash.
but i would never buy an LFA for more than $150k.
that's the price of a V10 R8, and the R8 has more presence, status, and appeal.
fix it up like daaaaamn: