2010 Suzuki Kizashi (Sport added from NY Auto Show)
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From the TV commercials, I wasn't very excited about this car. Then I saw one sitting in a Toyota dealership parking lot of all places. It made me walk over to it and take a look at it. Quite striking in person, I would say. The only negative thing I had to say was that I didn't like the mesh of the front grill.
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One false tip (that's unusual and lame)? Or a single exhaust off of a single manifold (one muffler, one resonator, one converter) branching into twin outlets which is very common?
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"Around back, wraparound taillights tastefully echo the headlights, and frame a tall trunk lid that doubles as a mild spoiler. These great-looking chrome outlets look like exhausts, but they're just for show."
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I guess we will have to peak under the rear bumper. Maybe both outlets are fake and just a single unfinished tip outlet is hidden behind the bumper. They look cool, which is the desired effect.
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Around here, where it gets really cold, it would look wierd to see exhaust coming out from someplace under the bumper and not from the chrome tips.
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The Kizashi is a great car. Silly haters not giving it its due.
It has better driving dynamics than any other FWD sedan in the US market, especially in its price range.
The Sport package gives it a nice look and will improve its already great handling.
It would definitely be at the top of my list along with the new Optima if I was shopping for a sedan in the $20K range.
It has better driving dynamics than any other FWD sedan in the US market, especially in its price range.
The Sport package gives it a nice look and will improve its already great handling.
It would definitely be at the top of my list along with the new Optima if I was shopping for a sedan in the $20K range.
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A true dual system, of course, will have two completely independent pipes, mufflers (and converters) from the exhaust manifolds to the tail outlets.
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The conversation regarding the mufflers is ridiculous. Who cares?
Are there ANY mid-size FWD $20K family sedans that have a true dual exhaust? NO.
They wanted the car to look upscale. That touch helps it. Most people aren't going to stoop down and inspect the design/construction of it. Most people are also idiots. 80% of BMW 1-Series owners believe their cars are FWD. Nice job.
Threads like this turn my stomach a bit. Really, what do you people want from a $20K FWD mainstream sedan? Yes, I too would prefer to see it (and most other cars) with a twin-tip single muffler like the I4 Mazda6 and some BMWs, rather than a fake dual exhaust.
Are there ANY mid-size FWD $20K family sedans that have a true dual exhaust? NO.
They wanted the car to look upscale. That touch helps it. Most people aren't going to stoop down and inspect the design/construction of it. Most people are also idiots. 80% of BMW 1-Series owners believe their cars are FWD. Nice job.
Threads like this turn my stomach a bit. Really, what do you people want from a $20K FWD mainstream sedan? Yes, I too would prefer to see it (and most other cars) with a twin-tip single muffler like the I4 Mazda6 and some BMWs, rather than a fake dual exhaust.
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I have to say, having sat in this car at the Chicago Auto Show, its interior had absolutely awesome material quality for its price range, probably best in class--and better even than some entry-level luxury cars well above its price range.
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The only people who are criticizing this car are ignorant fools who haven't seen one, let alone sat in one or driven one! It CANNOT be faulted in its price range/category, no matter which of its competitors you put it up against...Mazda6, Accord, Camry, Jetta, Altima, or even the TSX or base FWD A4!
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Just a little discussion of the rear set up. No ones hating on the car itself. In fact nothing's been said one way or another about the quality, handling etc. I'm sure it's a decent car. It's good looking too.
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One more classic example of cost-cutting. The single/dual-split branch system is common because it is a cheap way of doing a "sporty" dual-rear-outlet while only having to use one catalytic converter instead of two. Catalysts, of course, are expensive because they use platinum pellets....one reason why they are often stolen. Two mufflers, of course, are still used in the back, but a muffler costs a lot less, on average, than a converter.
A true dual system, of course, will have two completely independent pipes, mufflers (and converters) from the exhaust manifolds to the tail outlets.
A true dual system, of course, will have two completely independent pipes, mufflers (and converters) from the exhaust manifolds to the tail outlets.