So the s5 is underpowered? What if audi ads a snail or two?
08-07-09, 09:00 AM
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So the s5 is underpowered? What if audi ads a snail or two?
Audi has something called Project Anniversario to celebrate the anniversary of...something.
Yes, well the anniversary would have been Audi's centennial this year (2009) but the project has been delayed somewhat due to the financial crisis that has hit the automotive industry.
So what Audi is planning for Project Anniversario is a super S5 Quattro for 2012.
The car will likely take some inspiration from the old Quattro S1 Rallye in terms of styling and may come with a twin-turbo juiced V6 with somewhere around 425 bhp or a variation on the current TT RS's 2.5 liter, turbocharged 5-cylinder, dialed up to about 400 bhp.
The new S5 will be lighter, shaving about 240 kg off the standard S5, and weighing in at about 1400 kg (3086 lbs). This will be achieved by using light-weight body panels, shorter overhangs (like on the Quattro S1 Rallye) as well as lighter parts for the drivetrain.
The artist's rendering features wings, bonnet inlets and a rear spoiler, all who's design is influenced by the S1.
A reliable guess is that the Project Anniversario S5 will make its debut sometime around the end of 2010, as a celebration of the original Quattro's 30th anniversary. But the car won't make it to showrooms until the following year as a 2012 model.
Yes, well the anniversary would have been Audi's centennial this year (2009) but the project has been delayed somewhat due to the financial crisis that has hit the automotive industry.
So what Audi is planning for Project Anniversario is a super S5 Quattro for 2012.
The car will likely take some inspiration from the old Quattro S1 Rallye in terms of styling and may come with a twin-turbo juiced V6 with somewhere around 425 bhp or a variation on the current TT RS's 2.5 liter, turbocharged 5-cylinder, dialed up to about 400 bhp.
The new S5 will be lighter, shaving about 240 kg off the standard S5, and weighing in at about 1400 kg (3086 lbs). This will be achieved by using light-weight body panels, shorter overhangs (like on the Quattro S1 Rallye) as well as lighter parts for the drivetrain.
The artist's rendering features wings, bonnet inlets and a rear spoiler, all who's design is influenced by the S1.
A reliable guess is that the Project Anniversario S5 will make its debut sometime around the end of 2010, as a celebration of the original Quattro's 30th anniversary. But the car won't make it to showrooms until the following year as a 2012 model.
08-07-09, 01:27 PM
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If Audi wants to bump up the S5's power, fine (and can do it with the future CAFE rules), but, given the S5's current weight class, and even the fact that it is not as fast as some BMW M cars and Mercedes AMG's, it's hard to argue that, that with well over 300 HP, the current S5 is underpowered.
It is also, IMO (though this is, of course, not a power issue), better-looking, style-wise, than any BMW or Mercedes. I consider it a beautiful car.....all except for the too-large grille.
It is also, IMO (though this is, of course, not a power issue), better-looking, style-wise, than any BMW or Mercedes. I consider it a beautiful car.....all except for the too-large grille.
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If Audi wants to bump up the S5's power, fine (and can do it with the future CAFE rules), but, given the S5's current weight class, and even the fact that it is not as fast as some BMW M cars and Mercedes AMG's, it's hard to argue that, that with well over 300 HP, the current S5 is underpowered.
It is also, IMO (though this is, of course, not a power issue), better-looking, style-wise, than any BMW or Mercedes. I consider it a beautiful car.....all except for the too-large grille.
It is also, IMO (though this is, of course, not a power issue), better-looking, style-wise, than any BMW or Mercedes. I consider it a beautiful car.....all except for the too-large grille.
08-07-09, 01:59 PM
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Not according to it's price tag. Up here, the current S5 fully loaded is $5K more than my fully loaded IS F.
For that kind of ching it is dramatically underpowered. If you're going to price in the same range as the F, C63 and M3 it needs much more than just power.
If they came out with this new version and it was priced competitively then it might be worth noting. However, I foresee the same thing happening as with the RS4. It was just around $95K fully loaded which was ridiculous compared to the other 3 that are all $15-25K cheaper.
For that kind of ching it is dramatically underpowered. If you're going to price in the same range as the F, C63 and M3 it needs much more than just power.
If they came out with this new version and it was priced competitively then it might be worth noting. However, I foresee the same thing happening as with the RS4. It was just around $95K fully loaded which was ridiculous compared to the other 3 that are all $15-25K cheaper.
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08-07-09, 02:08 PM
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Not according to it's price tag. Up here, the current S5 fully loaded is $5K more than my fully loaded IS F.
For that kind of ching it is dramatically underpowered. If you're going to price in the same range as the F, C63 and M3 it needs much more than just power.
If they came out with this new version and it was priced competitively then it might be worth noting. However, I foresee the same thing happening as with the RS4. It was just around $95K fully loaded which was ridiculous compared to the other 3 that are all $15-25K cheaper.
For that kind of ching it is dramatically underpowered. If you're going to price in the same range as the F, C63 and M3 it needs much more than just power.
If they came out with this new version and it was priced competitively then it might be worth noting. However, I foresee the same thing happening as with the RS4. It was just around $95K fully loaded which was ridiculous compared to the other 3 that are all $15-25K cheaper.
but of course, on the windshield, they had this big *** sign saying "now only 53/55k" and that's before people negotiate with dealership? i laughed...
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Not according to it's price tag. Up here, the current S5 fully loaded is $5K more than my fully loaded IS F.
For that kind of ching it is dramatically underpowered. If you're going to price in the same range as the F, C63 and M3 it needs much more than just power.
If they came out with this new version and it was priced competitively then it might be worth noting. However, I foresee the same thing happening as with the RS4. It was just around $95K fully loaded which was ridiculous compared to the other 3 that are all $15-25K cheaper.
For that kind of ching it is dramatically underpowered. If you're going to price in the same range as the F, C63 and M3 it needs much more than just power.
If they came out with this new version and it was priced competitively then it might be worth noting. However, I foresee the same thing happening as with the RS4. It was just around $95K fully loaded which was ridiculous compared to the other 3 that are all $15-25K cheaper.
RS5 will compete with the M3, just that it will be more expensive than the M3
08-07-09, 04:20 PM
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I happen to believe the S5 price is going to come down some.
Reliability issues, competition and the economy should cause a price adjustment. ANy of these issues alone wouldn't be a consideration but all of them together has to have an effect on sales.
Reliability issues, competition and the economy should cause a price adjustment. ANy of these issues alone wouldn't be a consideration but all of them together has to have an effect on sales.
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