View Poll Results: Which Lexus coupe?
CT-h coupe, like a 1 series coupe
0
0%
True IS coupe (not a hardtop convert)
27
30.00%
GS coupe
22
24.44%
LS coupe
7
7.78%
SC larger and more like the SC 300/400
18
20.00%
Just give me a redesigned SC
12
13.33%
I have no need or want for a Lexus coupe but I will take a Goat...
2
2.22%
I want a dishwasher abortion or an angry stapler SUV coupe...seriously a Lexus coupe SUV ala X6
0
0%
ES coupe
0
0%
Hybrid only coupe
2
2.22%
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What new Lexus coupe would you like first?
08-22-09, 03:07 PM
#61
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I am going to hope the LF-L or LF-A or whatever is the "Halo" to a future coupe product onslaught. 
I want everyone to look at coupe sales that I now post in the monthly sales thread. Luxury coupes do not sell well but its great for image and people do want them. Don't expect 50,000 coupe sales.
I want everyone to look at coupe sales that I now post in the monthly sales thread. Luxury coupes do not sell well but its great for image and people do want them. Don't expect 50,000 coupe sales.
hmmmm
08-22-09, 08:26 PM
#63
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I am going to hope the LF-L or LF-A or whatever is the "Halo" to a future coupe product onslaught.
I want everyone to look at coupe sales that I now post in the monthly sales thread. Luxury coupes do not sell well but its great for image and people do want them. Don't expect 50,000 coupe sales.
I want everyone to look at coupe sales that I now post in the monthly sales thread. Luxury coupes do not sell well but its great for image and people do want them. Don't expect 50,000 coupe sales.
Hopefully the new Toyota president Akio Toyoda brings in tons of surprises. Let's wish for the comeback of the Supra, IS C (fixed hardtop coupe), SC 350 (fixed hardtop coupe), Toyota MR2, Celica or a Toyobaru project coupe...Solara, ES 350 C based on the Solara and so on...
Maybe Lexus can change the image of coupes and make them somewhat more desirable, attainable and just plain sell well.
That same detuned V10 engine can also be dropped into the GS F and would also be priced around $80K-$90K. The GS F would compete directly with the M5.
Last edited by Trexus; 08-22-09 at 10:03 PM.
08-22-09, 09:57 PM
#64
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Posted by 1SICKLEX for the month of July 2009:
Coupe/Convert (new category)
G37- 1,597
C70-685
911- 651
Z4-614
A5- 544
CLK-364
Boxster/Cayman- 352
SL-319
6 series-252
SLK-234
TT- 174
CL-85
R8-69
SC-57
As one can see coupes/convertibles don't sell a whole lot. Maybe Lexus can change that...
IS 250/350 C
IS 450h C
IS C F
ES 350 C
ES 450h C
SC 350/460
SC 450h
SC F
LF-A (coupe/roadster/hybrid)
Coupe/Convert (new category)
G37- 1,597
C70-685
911- 651
Z4-614
A5- 544
CLK-364
Boxster/Cayman- 352
SL-319
6 series-252
SLK-234
TT- 174
CL-85
R8-69
SC-57
As one can see coupes/convertibles don't sell a whole lot. Maybe Lexus can change that...
IS 250/350 C
IS 450h C
IS C F
ES 350 C
ES 450h C
SC 350/460
SC 450h
SC F
LF-A (coupe/roadster/hybrid)
Last edited by Trexus; 08-23-09 at 12:12 PM.
08-22-09, 10:05 PM
#65
Lexus Fanatic
I agree. IMO, the 2nd gen SC's ugly butt heavy shape is largely due to the bulky folding hardtop over a 4 seater (barely) configuration.
08-22-09, 10:09 PM
#66
Lexus Fanatic
I prefer to see premium coupe/hardtop category that Lexus should target as mainly the 3 series, E-class, G37. These 3 cars alone generate decent volume in medium price ranges. I think Lexus could do well here.
08-23-09, 07:48 AM
#68
The one thing that monthly sales numbers don't tell us is the sales of the 3 series coupe and convertible since BMW lumps the sales of all variants into one grand total. Even though they don't break them down individually, it has been said that the coupe and convertible make up roughly 1/3 of all 3 series sales. That number would indicate somewhere between 20,000 and 30,000 coupes and convertibles sold in a calendar year, so these are clearly a volume product for BMW.
The G37 is the only coupe that really directly competes with the 3, and it has fewer variants. The infiniti has the coupe and convertible only, while BMW has 328i coupe, 328i convert, 335i coupe, 335i convert, M3 coupe, and M3 convert. The A/S5 is priced somewhat higher than the 3, as is the E coupe.
If Lexus was to challenge BMW directly by offering (for example) IS250 coupe, IS250 convert, IS350 coupe, IS350 convert, IS F coupe, and IS F convert, I am sure that they would see a good bit of success. Since no other company offers as many variants as BMW does, it's kind of hard to gauge success and sales volumes.
Obviously something like a GS coupe would be sold in fewer quantities, but the ISc could turn into a profitable and successful product in it's next generation. Truthfully, it already is and the car only offers 2 variants.
The G37 is the only coupe that really directly competes with the 3, and it has fewer variants. The infiniti has the coupe and convertible only, while BMW has 328i coupe, 328i convert, 335i coupe, 335i convert, M3 coupe, and M3 convert. The A/S5 is priced somewhat higher than the 3, as is the E coupe.
If Lexus was to challenge BMW directly by offering (for example) IS250 coupe, IS250 convert, IS350 coupe, IS350 convert, IS F coupe, and IS F convert, I am sure that they would see a good bit of success. Since no other company offers as many variants as BMW does, it's kind of hard to gauge success and sales volumes.
Obviously something like a GS coupe would be sold in fewer quantities, but the ISc could turn into a profitable and successful product in it's next generation. Truthfully, it already is and the car only offers 2 variants.
08-23-09, 10:18 AM
#69
Lexus Fanatic
If Lexus was to challenge BMW directly by offering (for example) IS250 coupe, IS250 convert, IS350 coupe, IS350 convert, IS F coupe, and IS F convert, I am sure that they would see a good bit of success. Since no other company offers as many variants as BMW does, it's kind of hard to gauge success and sales volumes.
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08-23-09, 01:02 PM
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The one thing that monthly sales numbers don't tell us is the sales of the 3 series coupe and convertible since BMW lumps the sales of all variants into one grand total. Even though they don't break them down individually, it has been said that the coupe and convertible make up roughly 1/3 of all 3 series sales. That number would indicate somewhere between 20,000 and 30,000 coupes and convertibles sold in a calendar year, so these are clearly a volume product for BMW.
The G37 is the only coupe that really directly competes with the 3, and it has fewer variants. The infiniti has the coupe and convertible only, while BMW has 328i coupe, 328i convert, 335i coupe, 335i convert, M3 coupe, and M3 convert. The A/S5 is priced somewhat higher than the 3, as is the E coupe.
If Lexus was to challenge BMW directly by offering (for example) IS250 coupe, IS250 convert, IS350 coupe, IS350 convert, IS F coupe, and IS F convert, I am sure that they would see a good bit of success. Since no other company offers as many variants as BMW does, it's kind of hard to gauge success and sales volumes.
Obviously something like a GS coupe would be sold in fewer quantities, but the ISc could turn into a profitable and successful product in it's next generation. Truthfully, it already is and the car only offers 2 variants.
The G37 is the only coupe that really directly competes with the 3, and it has fewer variants. The infiniti has the coupe and convertible only, while BMW has 328i coupe, 328i convert, 335i coupe, 335i convert, M3 coupe, and M3 convert. The A/S5 is priced somewhat higher than the 3, as is the E coupe.
If Lexus was to challenge BMW directly by offering (for example) IS250 coupe, IS250 convert, IS350 coupe, IS350 convert, IS F coupe, and IS F convert, I am sure that they would see a good bit of success. Since no other company offers as many variants as BMW does, it's kind of hard to gauge success and sales volumes.
Obviously something like a GS coupe would be sold in fewer quantities, but the ISc could turn into a profitable and successful product in it's next generation. Truthfully, it already is and the car only offers 2 variants.
1. Stop saying "jap" it is offensive.
2. The G37 coupe sells good no matter what country it is from
08-23-09, 03:34 PM
#72
Yes with a regular IS-C coupe that would go a long way towards upping IS sales IMO, which are already quite good for a sedan-only model cycle (up to this year, now it's sedan+convert).
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