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Old 08-25-09, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by shyguy16
here's the big omission - ford escape hybrid (32mpg)

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I've brought that up...it was conveniently omitted.
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Originally Posted by shyguy16
.efficient is a relative term the proper comparison is hybrids to hybrids, gas to gas, diesel to diesel. .
That would be correct.

efficient is a relative term
The hybrid wouldn't be so effecient if you add in the price difference to the comparison as well.
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The Ford Escape hybrid is a very different bird from the RX.

Escape: 177 HP
FWD: 34/31/32.5
AWD: 29/27/28

RX450h: 295 HP
FWD: 32/28/30
AWD:30/28/29
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Boy, has this thread grown.. I missed a lot.. Question for the RX thumpers..

Id the RX hybrid designed to run on cost saving alternative fuels like E85 like the Hybrid suv's GM, Ford, etc?
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Originally Posted by DASHOCKER
Boy, has this thread grown.. I missed a lot.. Question for the RX thumpers..

Id the RX hybrid designed to run on cost saving alternative fuels like E85 like the Hybrid suv's GM, Ford, etc?
RX450h runs on premium fuel only i believe.
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Originally Posted by DASHOCKER
Boy, has this thread grown.. I missed a lot.. Question for the RX thumpers..

Id the RX hybrid designed to run on cost saving alternative fuels like E85 like the Hybrid suv's GM, Ford, etc?
Nope. Toyota except for the Tundra and Sequoia has not jumped on the E85 bandwagon. IMO, ethanol-based fuels are a joke. Biodiesel can be made from WVO.
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Originally Posted by DASHOCKER
Boy, has this thread grown.. I missed a lot.. Question for the RX thumpers..

Id the RX hybrid designed to run on cost saving alternative fuels like E85 like the Hybrid suv's GM, Ford, etc?
Great a question from the BMW thumper to the RX thumpers... (see what I did there)

Knock-off the jabs.
 
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Great a question from the BMW thumper to the RX thumpers... (see what I did there)

Knock-off the jabs.
Knock off the jabs?? Flip a few pages back & read some of the posts by Och... A bit long on the trigger pull there.. It is a valid question. Do you have a valid answer to my question before I am asked to leave "your blog" ??


To those who are unaware, biodiesel & E85 are alternative fuels. These fuels were created to lessen our dependence on foreign oil. And to answer your earlier question about biodiesel filling stations in my area Och, there are 4 in my immediate area. Hell, there are only two Mobil gas stations in my immediate area and that is my gasoline of choice.
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Originally Posted by DASHOCKER
Knock off the jabs?? Flip a few pages back & read some of the posts by Och... A bit long on the trigger pull there.. It is a valid question. Do you have a valid answer to my question before I am asked to leave "your blog" ??


To those who are unaware, biodiesel & E85 are alternative fuels. These fuels were created to lessen our dependence on foreign oil. And to answer your earlier question about biodiesel filling stations in my area Och, there are 4 in my immediate area. Hell, there are only two Mobil gas stations in my immediate area and that is my gasoline of choice.
DustinV and Och have been warned. You can ask a question without calling people RX thumpers in a Lexus forum in a thread about the RX.

Ethanol is IMO an utter waste, that corn needs to be used for food not fuel. E85 also can eat a cars gas lines over time. It maybe part of the solution to some but it has negatives.

http://www.businessweek.com/autos/co...427_493909.htm
http://seekingalpha.com/article/1247...-the-beautiful
 
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Originally Posted by DASHOCKER
Boy, has this thread grown.. I missed a lot.. Question for the RX thumpers..

Id the RX hybrid designed to run on cost saving alternative fuels like E85 like the Hybrid suv's GM, Ford, etc?
Isn't E85 more expensive than gas? And doesn't the car perform and get less MPG with E85, I remember reading that, so why would E85 be a good alternative?
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Originally Posted by xioix
Isn't E85 more expensive than gas? And doesn't the car perform and get less MPG with E85, I remember reading that, so why would E85 be a good alternative?
E85 is about 30 cents less per gallon than regular gasoline. But you are correct in that gas mileage suffers. So essentially you break even when it comes to fuel costs. However, E85 does burn cleaner. Lex is right though, some cars designed to run on E85 have had problems from the fuel.
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Well looks like E85 is cheaper, but not cheaper to run

http://www.edmunds.com/advice/altern...3/article.html
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Originally Posted by xioix
Well looks like E85 is cheaper, but not cheaper to run

http://www.edmunds.com/advice/altern...3/article.html
Look at the EPA gas mileage ratings (gasoline vs E85) for comparisons.

Example of 08 Mercedes C300:

Gasoline (premium) 18/25
E85 13/19
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Originally Posted by DASHOCKER
To those who are unaware, biodiesel & E85 are alternative fuels. These fuels were created to lessen our dependence on foreign oil. And to answer your earlier question about biodiesel filling stations in my area Och, there are 4 in my immediate area. Hell, there are only two Mobil gas stations in my immediate area and that is my gasoline of choice.
I do not believe you, unless they are some underground "filling statios" operated out of some restaurants basement. Until there are filling stations on every corner much like petrol stations, where you can swiple your card and fill your tank, all alternative fuels are irrelevant, be it biodiesel, hydrogen, e85, whatever.

Right now petrol is simply the most common and the most "convenient" fuel. It is readily available, there are no maintenance issues that it causes, and the RX is simply making the best of it.
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Originally Posted by IS-SV
Look at the EPA gas mileage ratings (gasoline vs E85) for comparisons.

Example of 08 Mercedes C300:

Gasoline (premium) 18/25
E85 13/19
That is a HUGE difference!
 


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