SVT F-150 RAPTOR - amazing!
09-05-09, 08:55 PM
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SVT F-150 RAPTOR - amazing!
drive across a desert over anything at 80mph.
full review here:
http://www.nextautos.com/driven-2010...lightly-my-***
i LOVE this picture, lol
full review here:
http://www.nextautos.com/driven-2010...lightly-my-***
i LOVE this picture, lol
09-05-09, 09:22 PM
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The whole concept seems misleading, though, and may be false advertising, just like those old Paul Hogan Subaru and the Pontiac "Cowboy" Montana minivan ads.
I don't care how much travel you have in the suspension, how beefy the truck ladder-frame is, how many skid-plates you have, or how heavy-duty the shock absorbers are, you just don't go charging across creek beds or up the sides of granite-cliff mountains at high speeds.
That's what was wrong with the Paul Hogan ads......and why Subaru eventually stopped them. They tried to portray Foresters and Outbacks as all-terrain, rock-climbing Jeeps. Well, they aren't, despite having one of the best car-based AWD systems in the world.
I'm sure the Raptor is very capable off road (most 4WD F-150s are; one reason for their great popularity), but off-road capability is one thing......absurd speeds while off-roading is quite another.
I don't care how much travel you have in the suspension, how beefy the truck ladder-frame is, how many skid-plates you have, or how heavy-duty the shock absorbers are, you just don't go charging across creek beds or up the sides of granite-cliff mountains at high speeds.
That's what was wrong with the Paul Hogan ads......and why Subaru eventually stopped them. They tried to portray Foresters and Outbacks as all-terrain, rock-climbing Jeeps. Well, they aren't, despite having one of the best car-based AWD systems in the world.
I'm sure the Raptor is very capable off road (most 4WD F-150s are; one reason for their great popularity), but off-road capability is one thing......absurd speeds while off-roading is quite another.
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09-06-09, 06:51 AM
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I don't care how much travel you have in the suspension, how beefy the truck ladder-frame is, how many skid-plates you have, or how heavy-duty the shock absorbers are, you just don't go charging across creek beds or up the sides of granite-cliff mountains at high speeds.
what i'm impressed about it (from the review) is even on regular roads you will likely get a MORE capable truck and comfortable ride.
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09-06-09, 09:12 AM
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The whole concept seems misleading, though, and may be false advertising, just like those old Paul Hogan Subaru and the Pontiac "Cowboy" Montana minivan ads.
I don't care how much travel you have in the suspension, how beefy the truck ladder-frame is, how many skid-plates you have, or how heavy-duty the shock absorbers are, you just don't go charging across creek beds or up the sides of granite-cliff mountains at high speeds.
That's what was wrong with the Paul Hogan ads......and why Subaru eventually stopped them. They tried to portray Foresters and Outbacks as all-terrain, rock-climbing Jeeps. Well, they aren't, despite having one of the best car-based AWD systems in the world.
I'm sure the Raptor is very capable off road (most 4WD F-150s are; one reason for their great popularity), but off-road capability is one thing......absurd speeds while off-roading is quite another.
I don't care how much travel you have in the suspension, how beefy the truck ladder-frame is, how many skid-plates you have, or how heavy-duty the shock absorbers are, you just don't go charging across creek beds or up the sides of granite-cliff mountains at high speeds.
That's what was wrong with the Paul Hogan ads......and why Subaru eventually stopped them. They tried to portray Foresters and Outbacks as all-terrain, rock-climbing Jeeps. Well, they aren't, despite having one of the best car-based AWD systems in the world.
I'm sure the Raptor is very capable off road (most 4WD F-150s are; one reason for their great popularity), but off-road capability is one thing......absurd speeds while off-roading is quite another.
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09-06-09, 01:56 PM
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Of course it's laughable. That isn't what I was saying. I wasn't comparing the vehicle itself to Subies or Montanas, only to the fact that auto companies have a history of exaggerating off-road ads, that's all.
As I said in my post, I'm sure it IS up to the job of reasonably tough off-roading. But not slamming across creek beds or large rocks at freeway speeds. Sorry, but I'm just a little skeptical about that.
it's done all the time in places like baja so somehow it does get done. i guess i'm unclear why you think a beast like this isn't up to the job.
09-06-09, 02:05 PM
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However, though I'm skeptical at the moment (and have good reason to be), I may test-drive one if I get a chance. I live in an area where there isn't much in the way of real off-roading, but there are some beat-up construction areas and I'll look for the roughest stuff I can find.
But, in the meantime, you've got to pardon me if I am skeptical. True off -road conditions at freeway speeds puts enormous stress on a truck.....far past the point where engineers can be expected to come up with a design at a price that could be sold as an everyday vehicle....in this case, 50K.
09-06-09, 03:21 PM
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no problem, but did you read the review?
a couple of quotes:
a couple of quotes:
The suspension proved its mettle several times, including when I missed a turn-in at one ubiquitous creosol bush. The error and resulting power slide put the tires on a 45° collision course with what looked to be a substantial ridge created by a recent storm runoff. I braced for the impact and quickly wondered how many times the truck would barrel roll after the tires were knocked off their rims.
My navigator and I felt the impact. It was literally nothing. The Raptor couldn't have cared less. The suspension absorbed the shunt with no change in direction or upset to the chassis
My navigator and I felt the impact. It was literally nothing. The Raptor couldn't have cared less. The suspension absorbed the shunt with no change in direction or upset to the chassis
Attempting anything akin to our Raptor's romp in the desert with a normal four-wheel drive truck would be ill advised. Its suspension would beat itself to pieces and major driveline components would spin themselves into tangled masses.
09-06-09, 05:38 PM
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Yes I did. It's hard to tell just how fast they were going when they hit that ridge.
I'll look at the truck myself....and test-drive it if they allow it. I'm still skeptical, but I'm also fair and objective......you know that. If it turns out I was wrong, and underestimated its capabilities, then so be it. I've been wrong before.
I'll look at the truck myself....and test-drive it if they allow it. I'm still skeptical, but I'm also fair and objective......you know that. If it turns out I was wrong, and underestimated its capabilities, then so be it. I've been wrong before.
09-06-09, 11:58 PM
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Yes I did. It's hard to tell just how fast they were going when they hit that ridge.
I'll look at the truck myself....and test-drive it if they allow it. I'm still skeptical, but I'm also fair and objective......you know that. If it turns out I was wrong, and underestimated its capabilities, then so be it. I've been wrong before.
I'll look at the truck myself....and test-drive it if they allow it. I'm still skeptical, but I'm also fair and objective......you know that. If it turns out I was wrong, and underestimated its capabilities, then so be it. I've been wrong before.
09-07-09, 06:04 AM
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You're right. It probably won't, but there are some torn-up construction sites in the area, and I'll look for the roughest place I can find.
Have you driven a Raptor yourself? I don't know if it's been released yet in your area. FL doesn't have much in the way of rocky off-road terrain, but it does have some sandy areas, marshes, and beaches (where they're not off-limits to vehicles).