Toyota May be Changing Oil Change Intervals Soon.
11-18-09, 10:43 AM
#48
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Will you see them in the next thread, though? Maybe, maybe not. 
I guess that means you were able to talk them out of THEIR Buick.
True, with full-synthetic, the viscosity itself doesn't break down under heat likewith dino oil, but the additives might. If you can go 10K with no problems, fine, but in my part of the country, with our driving conditions, that might be pushing it.
"Old fashioned and conservative maybe" even when compared to my parents in their 80;s, but that's just a casual useless observation.
IMO, no problem with 10K intervals using Mobil 1 with my kind of driving.
Last edited by mmarshall; 11-18-09 at 10:47 AM.
11-18-09, 10:50 AM
#49
I recently changed the Oil in my Avalon with 155k on the clock. It was the first oil change since I got the car with around 148k on it. It was run on fully synthetic prior to the oil change, and that was apparent. The oil, for the most part was clean with a little, and I mean little, grime. Threw in some Mobile 1 Fully Syn, and it should be good for another 8-10k respectively.
11-18-09, 11:26 AM
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11-25-09, 07:46 AM
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I don't think mileage is a good proxy to determine when it's time to change the oil. Stop/start/idle city driving takes a much higher toll per mile on oil than highway driving. It's my understanding that with fleet and industrial vehicles that fluids are measured for wear and changed accordingly. I have been using fuel consumption as my proxy. After 100 fillups, it's time to change the oil. Between changes I occasionally check the oil and make sure the level is right and that it's still slippery and has some viscosity.
11-25-09, 10:55 AM
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11-25-09, 11:01 AM
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11-25-09, 11:10 AM
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You need to work on your research a bit more. The Prius came to market initially in Japan in 1997, and that was years before the Insight, which only came to market in 1999. The Prius was the first mass-produced hybrid.
Enthusiasts are grossly misinformed on this because lazy automotive media personnel always talk about how the Insight came out a few months before the Prius *in the US*, but they almost never mention when the Prius originally debuted.
Enthusiasts are grossly misinformed on this because lazy automotive media personnel always talk about how the Insight came out a few months before the Prius *in the US*, but they almost never mention when the Prius originally debuted.
11-25-09, 02:57 PM
#58
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Hybrids, though, especially full/parallel hybrids such as the Prius that can run on electric power alone, may actually need more frequent oil changes than conventional vehicles. Their gas engines don't run continuously, meaning more start-stop/on-off cycles, oil temperature continuously going up and down, more chances for dirt and mosture to contaminate it, etc..... All of that, of course, means (or can mean) faster deterioration of the engine oil.
I suspect this is going to be a real problem for the upcoming Chevolet Volt, as it can run, on its advanced lithium-ion batteries, up to 40 miles without any gas-engine recharging, meaning that the Volt's gas engine is going to be especially lazy, with very little operation.
I suspect this is going to be a real problem for the upcoming Chevolet Volt, as it can run, on its advanced lithium-ion batteries, up to 40 miles without any gas-engine recharging, meaning that the Volt's gas engine is going to be especially lazy, with very little operation.
11-25-09, 03:04 PM
#59
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I recently changed the Oil in my Avalon with 155k on the clock. It was the first oil change since I got the car with around 148k on it. It was run on fully synthetic prior to the oil change, and that was apparent. The oil, for the most part was clean with a little, and I mean little, grime. Threw in some Mobile 1 Fully Syn, and it should be good for another 8-10k respectively.
11-25-09, 03:13 PM
#60
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I won't be putting much merit in the color of used oil today, thankfully the science of oil for motor vehicle use has changed dramatically in the last couple of decades. GM and BMW (for example) have very sophisticated oil monitoring systems than need to be expanded throughout product lines and adopted by other car makers. Oil monitoring systems could be especially useful with longer intervals on hybrids because of their unique operating conditions as mentioned above.