New BMW M5 F10 (updated, official spec and link in #205)
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first tease video. can't see much, engine sounds deeper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F8N4...layer_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F8N4...layer_embedded
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http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/f10...ve-f10-m5.html
so much about the automatic talk. seems like dct is still the case. unless they decided dct is garbage and put in automatic instead
very different from the e60, more like evolved from e39 huh...
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/f10...ve-f10-m5.html
so much about the automatic talk. seems like dct is still the case. unless they decided dct is garbage and put in automatic instead
very different from the e60, more like evolved from e39 huh...
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video inside
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/f10...ve-f10-m5.html
so much about the automatic talk. seems like dct is still the case. unless they decided dct is garbage and put in automatic instead
very different from the e60, more like evolved from e39 huh...
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/f10...ve-f10-m5.html
so much about the automatic talk. seems like dct is still the case. unless they decided dct is garbage and put in automatic instead
very different from the e60, more like evolved from e39 huh...
#171
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4000+ lbs. is not out of the question when you look at this car's physical size, large engine, large, beefy drivetrain components, large wheels/tires, and the amount of equipment hung on it. The unibody frame, in the BMW tradition, also has a lit of stiffening in it.
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^^^ agreed... the LFA with all its CF is nearly 3300lbs, so 4600lbs for a car MUCH bigger that is actually practical, can seat 5, loaded with creature comforts, etc., but is still rocket fast, it doesn't seem so bad.
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http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/f10...g-trailer.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiOSOg351bo (Trailer)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6mRH2-U0Vk (testdriver interview with subtitles)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt31MTCqmHs (Trailer + testdriver interview without subtitles)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiOSOg351bo (Trailer)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6mRH2-U0Vk (testdriver interview with subtitles)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt31MTCqmHs (Trailer + testdriver interview without subtitles)
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http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/256784/
BMW has acknowledged that a four-wheel-drive version of its new M5 is being lined up.
BMW’s new rival to the Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG, revealed at the recent Shanghai show, uses a 552bhp twin-turbocharged V8 motor and features a typically conservative body kit with sinister-looking 20in wheels.
BMW is keen to hold back exact details about the car, but officials have confirmed that there are moves to eventually produce a four-wheel-drive version of the M5.
However, insiders have denied that the company is considering producing a long-wheelbase version of the car specifically for the Chinese market.
“The long-wheelbase platform is reserved for standard versions of the 5-series sold in the Chinese market,” said one source. “There are no existing plans for an M5 on this structure.”
Set for UK delivery in April 2012, following the unveiling of the definitive production version at the Frankfurt motor show later this year, the new M5 is said to possess greater straight-line performance than its predecessor while delivering an impressive 25 per cent reduction in fuel consumption.
These gains can be attributed, in part, to the adoption of a Getrag-engineered seven-speed, dual-clutch gearbox and a range of other measures from BMW’s Efficient Dynamics portfolio, including automatic stop-start, brake energy recuperation and on-demand ancillary functions for the water pump.
BMW’s new rival to the Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG, revealed at the recent Shanghai show, uses a 552bhp twin-turbocharged V8 motor and features a typically conservative body kit with sinister-looking 20in wheels.
BMW is keen to hold back exact details about the car, but officials have confirmed that there are moves to eventually produce a four-wheel-drive version of the M5.
However, insiders have denied that the company is considering producing a long-wheelbase version of the car specifically for the Chinese market.
“The long-wheelbase platform is reserved for standard versions of the 5-series sold in the Chinese market,” said one source. “There are no existing plans for an M5 on this structure.”
Set for UK delivery in April 2012, following the unveiling of the definitive production version at the Frankfurt motor show later this year, the new M5 is said to possess greater straight-line performance than its predecessor while delivering an impressive 25 per cent reduction in fuel consumption.
These gains can be attributed, in part, to the adoption of a Getrag-engineered seven-speed, dual-clutch gearbox and a range of other measures from BMW’s Efficient Dynamics portfolio, including automatic stop-start, brake energy recuperation and on-demand ancillary functions for the water pump.
#177
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4600 lbs!?!?!?!? you can put a cape on a pig and give it super powers but its still a big fat pig. I dont care what they do to the car it will never handle like the old M cars. It will feel more like a Bentley Continental AWD. BMW will work it magic but physics is physics. Corners dont like fat cars. My friend had an M6 covertible that he let me drive all of the time and it was fast but never felt 507 hp fast.
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I already told you that I had made up my mind....now this. Decision just got murkier.
#180
I can truly see the GSF being the top super saloon when it's released.
Quick round up (and please correct me if I'm wrong):
The M5: 4,600 lbs, 580 hp, 500 lb-ft torque
The E63: 4,084 lbs, 518 hp, 465 lb-ft torque
The GSF: 3,600 lbs?, 480 hp?, 400 lb-ft torque?
Let's just say the GSF gets the same power increases from the GS460, that the ISF got from the IS350 (36% increase in hp, and 34% increase in torque).
That means the GSF would hopefully get:
465 Hp and 454 lb-ft torque.
That much power and torque on a 3,600 lb car? yeah, the GSF is gonna rape.
Quick round up (and please correct me if I'm wrong):
The M5: 4,600 lbs, 580 hp, 500 lb-ft torque
The E63: 4,084 lbs, 518 hp, 465 lb-ft torque
The GSF: 3,600 lbs?, 480 hp?, 400 lb-ft torque?
Let's just say the GSF gets the same power increases from the GS460, that the ISF got from the IS350 (36% increase in hp, and 34% increase in torque).
That means the GSF would hopefully get:
465 Hp and 454 lb-ft torque.
That much power and torque on a 3,600 lb car? yeah, the GSF is gonna rape.