costs BMW $1427 for a flat tire...
09-29-09, 02:48 PM
#16
Lexus Champion
I'd bet it depends on the type of damage... if his flat tire was due to traumatic damage to the sidewall then of course it wouldn't take him far.
09-29-09, 03:00 PM
#18
Lexus Champion
Toyota got into some deep doo-doo for RFTs not working on the Sienna AWD, mostly because the Sienna uses indirect, ABS-based TPMS which can't distinguish between a full RFT or a aired-out RFT and the fact the OEM Bridgestone B380 is based off the B381 Bridgestone designed for Honda specifically for the Civic Hybrid - while the Dunlop had accelerated wear patterns.
Honda did slightly better with the PAX System, but PAX failed to gain the support of Michelin's biggest accounts - Costco, Sears and Wal-Mart for servicing those tires. Basically it was a repeat of the TRX tire. Ironically, Costco recently replaced their tire changers with Coats APX90Es, the same tire changer both Michelin and Honda require at every Honda or Acura dealer.
Honda did slightly better with the PAX System, but PAX failed to gain the support of Michelin's biggest accounts - Costco, Sears and Wal-Mart for servicing those tires. Basically it was a repeat of the TRX tire. Ironically, Costco recently replaced their tire changers with Coats APX90Es, the same tire changer both Michelin and Honda require at every Honda or Acura dealer.
09-29-09, 03:03 PM
#19
Lexus Champion
One major advantage to RFTs that you guys seem to be overlooking is that they don't typically just rapidly decompress and explode while you're doing 80 down the freeway in the rain.
They are? Not that I am saying you're wrong but I've never heard somebody say that a non-RFT and RFT would have any difference in traction if they were otherwise identical. Where have you read that? Seems strange to me that they put RFTs on Corvettes, in that case.
They are? Not that I am saying you're wrong but I've never heard somebody say that a non-RFT and RFT would have any difference in traction if they were otherwise identical. Where have you read that? Seems strange to me that they put RFTs on Corvettes, in that case.
09-29-09, 03:04 PM
#20
Toyota got into some deep doo-doo for RFTs not working on the Sienna AWD, mostly because the Sienna uses indirect, ABS-based TPMS which can't distinguish between a full RFT or a aired-out RFT and the fact the OEM Bridgestone B380 is based off the B381 Bridgestone designed for Honda specifically for the Civic Hybrid - while the Dunlop had accelerated wear patterns.
Honda did slightly better with the PAX System, but PAX failed to gain the support of Michelin's biggest accounts - Costco, Sears and Wal-Mart for servicing those tires. Basically it was a repeat of the TRX tire. Ironically, Costco recently replaced their tire changers with Coats APX90Es, the same tire changer both Michelin and Honda require at every Honda or Acura dealer.
Honda did slightly better with the PAX System, but PAX failed to gain the support of Michelin's biggest accounts - Costco, Sears and Wal-Mart for servicing those tires. Basically it was a repeat of the TRX tire. Ironically, Costco recently replaced their tire changers with Coats APX90Es, the same tire changer both Michelin and Honda require at every Honda or Acura dealer.
http://www.lemonlaws.com/2008/02/mic..._pax_runf.html
09-29-09, 05:38 PM
#24
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What if he was stuck in an area without cell coverage?
09-29-09, 05:39 PM
#25
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09-29-09, 06:15 PM
#26
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One major advantage to RFTs that you guys seem to be overlooking is that they don't typically just rapidly decompress and explode while you're doing 80 down the freeway in the rain.
They are? Not that I am saying you're wrong but I've never heard somebody say that a non-RFT and RFT would have any difference in traction if they were otherwise identical. Where have you read that? Seems strange to me that they put RFTs on Corvettes, in that case.
They are? Not that I am saying you're wrong but I've never heard somebody say that a non-RFT and RFT would have any difference in traction if they were otherwise identical. Where have you read that? Seems strange to me that they put RFTs on Corvettes, in that case.
09-30-09, 06:44 AM
#28
Lexus Champion
I thought that's because the PAX doesn't use strengthened sidewalls, but but has like a ring internally that goes around the rim.
09-30-09, 07:24 AM
#29
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
glad my C5 had RFT's when I had a tire go to 0 psi @ 118mph....
I thought the super stiff sidewalls of a RFT would make the car handle BETTER? ride may be stiffer, yes, but shouldn't it handle better?
I thought the super stiff sidewalls of a RFT would make the car handle BETTER? ride may be stiffer, yes, but shouldn't it handle better?
09-30-09, 07:52 AM
#30
Lexus Test Driver
I've heard worse.
Back in the 90s when my dad a BMW. They charged him over $2000 CDN ($1400 USD)* for an oil change.
* I used the approximate exchange rate from the '90s (1 CDN = 0.70 USD)
Back in the 90s when my dad a BMW. They charged him over $2000 CDN ($1400 USD)* for an oil change.
* I used the approximate exchange rate from the '90s (1 CDN = 0.70 USD)