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Old 09-30-09, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
my miata has the kit, no spare, for weight, space, cost reasons.
Exactly, and they took the chance that these cars will rarely get used for cross-country trips away from necessary support required in the rare case of complete tire failure.
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Old 09-30-09, 07:56 AM
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OP of that thread said way too much to convey so little
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Old 09-30-09, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
I didn't say I thought they SHOULD come with RFTs, I just said I'm surprised they don't since they're standard on the 328i and 335i.


Again, any source for this statement? With my understanding of the design of a RFT, the notion that it would hurt handling vs a similarly designed non-RFT, is a bit silly sounding. I understand it hurts ride quality, but handling? How?



there's prob. a phone number you can call from a land line once you get to one.
Most of the time I'm in on a road without cell coverage I'm also tens of miles away from the nearest known location of a land line. I do a lot of back country hiking and mountain climbing and often times have a solid 15 mile drive before I even get back to paved roads, much less to somebody's house or business. Not to mention what if the weather is bad and/or it's night time and places are closed and people are asleep? Fact is IMO ALL cars should have RFTs or have a spare tire. Having non RFTs with a can of fix a flat is just a slap in the face to new car buyers.
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Old 09-30-09, 09:24 AM
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RFTs blow.
There's a new generation Bridgestone RF is coming out in a couple of months which are said to be very close to conventional tires in ride comfort,less noise and better treadwear.

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Old 09-30-09, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Threxx
One major advantage to RFTs that you guys seem to be overlooking is that they don't typically just rapidly decompress and explode while you're doing 80 down the freeway in the rain.



They are? Not that I am saying you're wrong but I've never heard somebody say that a non-RFT and RFT would have any difference in traction if they were otherwise identical. Where have you read that? Seems strange to me that they put RFTs on Corvettes, in that case.
i don't have solid facts to back up neither, but of all the RF i have seen, they aren't impressive at all. i can understand they provide convenience, but if you talk about performance, i can't imagine how RF will be better.

put it this way, RF is always heavier than nonRF coz' of the way it's constructed, very thick sidewall to support the car, etc... that's sprung weight probably at the worst location of a wheel/suspension setup. given that, even if say the traction is as good as ps2, then i would assume ps2 nonRF is still better coz' of the weight reduction?

again, this is just my logical thinking, someone can correct me. the covette has RF and it's good performance, but my question is, if change out to nonRF of the same grade, would it perform even better?
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Old 09-30-09, 10:25 AM
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I don't think run flats are really worth the price tag they come with.

I have only seen a handful of them last the way they are advertised.

Plus they are EXTREMELY hard to mount !!!

All in all, glad to hear BMW assist came through like that, great story!!
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Old 09-30-09, 11:36 AM
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Sad story but glad to hear that it all worked out at the end.
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Old 09-30-09, 12:25 PM
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how about just provide an extra rim and tire for the $60k the stupid car cost at the very least some sort of donut. My much cheaper IS cam with a full size rim and tire.
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Old 09-30-09, 12:34 PM
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IMO, cost was the least important consideration in BMW's choice of spare (or lack of) in this case.
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Old 09-30-09, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by IS-SV
IMO, cost was the least important consideration in BMW's choice of spare (or lack of) in this case.
Obviously Safety or being stranded in the middle of nowhere is not a big concerned of their either.
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Old 09-30-09, 01:23 PM
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Did this really cost $1400 out of your own pocket? A PS2 is a little over $300 here in Canada.
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Old 09-30-09, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by The G Man
Obviously Safety or being stranded in the middle of nowhere is not a big concerned of their either.
IMO, safety is still a priority with BMW, the chance of getting stranded in the middle of nowhere obviously not a big concern because it rarely happens.
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The 5 Series comes with a compact spare even thought the car has run flats.
However,I've read the new generation '11 5 Series won't include the spare.
Just very stupid,IMO.
I believe the GS 350 didn't have a spare till '09.
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Originally Posted by Joeb427
The 5 Series comes with a compact spare even thought the car has run flats.
However,I've read the new generation '11 5 Series won't include the spare.
Just very stupid,IMO.
I believe the GS 350 didn't have a spare till '09.
only some gs350 with RF don't come with spare. others (including mine) have donut
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Old 10-01-09, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by IS-SV
IMO, safety is still a priority with BMW, the chance of getting stranded in the middle of nowhere obviously not a big concern because it rarely happens.
How safe is it to be stranded in the middle of nowhere, what if there is no cell phone coverage?
The 1st year Lexus GS350 with runflat started out with no spare, but they listen to their customers and made the donut spare standard afterward. BMW without runflats and not even a donut spare is irresponsible in my opinion. Weight saving is fine, but not at the cost of safety.
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