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Old 09-29-09 | 10:52 PM
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Read the attached. Seems all is OK.

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Old 09-29-09 | 10:57 PM
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I knew all this cost cutting by TOYOTA would catch up to them one day....I have to let my dad know. He owns one of the cars that are on the list.
Old 09-29-09 | 10:58 PM
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seems like a lot of drama from a floor matt
Old 09-29-09 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by pagemaster
I knew all this cost cutting by TOYOTA would catch up to them one day....
...can you please explain how this is the fault of cost cutting?
Old 09-30-09 | 12:23 AM
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I am removing the seats as we speak, can't be too careful, especially when you don't have 30 secs to inspect your driving station. I am thinking of taking out all the carpet too...

A sad crash for sure, but no one really knows what the cause was yet, just a whole heap of fingers being pointed.
Old 09-30-09 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by pagemaster
I knew all this cost cutting by TOYOTA would catch up to them one day....I have to let my dad know. He owns one of the cars that are on the list.
Old 09-30-09 | 04:02 AM
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The LExus corporate line said last night the removal of the floormats is just precaution until they figure out a solution. Also they said until then, they have halted all all weather mat sales.
Old 09-30-09 | 05:11 AM
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I'm wondering why is this recall only for USA and not rest of the world? Same cars sell in all other countries outside US.
Old 09-30-09 | 05:13 AM
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I'm sorry but this is the most ridiculous recall i have ever heard of! People have lost the use of some good ol fashion common sence?!
Old 09-30-09 | 05:23 AM
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I guess the problem happens when the gas pedal is floored. It must have something to do with the length of the accelarator and the angle of the floor when the gas pedal is depressed all the way. This should serve as a warning to all those owner who like to stack floor mats for what ever reason.
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Originally Posted by Tee
I'm sorry but this is the most ridiculous recall i have ever heard of! People have lost the use of some good ol fashion common sence?!
They are not spending millions of dollars on this because it's common sense. Remember that a family of 4 is dead, and this is the likely cause.

I saw this quote in the NY Times about that incident:

This month, Toyota ordered dealers to inspect the floor mats in all Toyota and Lexus vehicles after a crash on Aug. 28 near San Diego killed four people; the police said the accident might have been caused by an improperly installed mat. The car was a 2009 Lexus ES 350 on loan from a dealership to the driver, an off-duty California Highway Patrol officer.
It reminded me that my dealer places chintzy mats that say "Lexus of #########" over the OEM mats--I really hope that didn't happen in this case.
Old 09-30-09 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by pagemaster
I knew all this cost cutting by TOYOTA would catch up to them one day....I have to let my dad know. He owns one of the cars that are on the list.
This appears to be a dealer and/or operator error vs. the manufacturer. If the mat is properly installed, as designed, this won't happen.
Old 09-30-09 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by LexBob2
This appears to be a dealer and/or operator error vs. the manufacturer. If the mat is properly installed, as designed, this won't happen.
I agree that I don't see how it's cost cutting, but if it was pure driver error, and not the fault of the design, there wouldn't be a recall of 3.8 MILLION cars. Remember how hard Audi fought the unintended acceleration claims in the late 80s? And they were right--it was all driver error. Toyota wouldn't just roll over like that if it was all driver error.
Old 09-30-09 | 07:08 AM
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there's another way to look at a recall - ADVERTISING. it gets all these car owners to 're-connect' with their dealers, it can re-enforce that toyota/lexus is looking out for them, it may well get dealers some new business (service, accessories or vehicles)...
Old 09-30-09 | 07:46 AM
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Checked this morning...the accelerator pedal (sport package metal version) doesn't come anywhere near the carpet mat as long as the mat is attached to the hooks near the seat. Haven't checked the winter mats yet...

Not too worried. My wife drives the IS most of the time and she drives like a granny (well, she actually is a granny) and I doubt if she's ever had the pedal to the floor (but I have ;-)


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