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Old 10-20-09, 04:41 AM
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TOKYO -- Toyota Motor Corp. has unveiled a more expensive and bigger hybrid-only model than its hit Prius, underlining the Japanese automaker's ambitions to make green technology more widespread.

The "Sai" sedan is Toyota's second hybrid-only model after the Prius. Toyota offers hybrid versions of other car models.

Sai, which means "talent" and "color," will be sold only in Japan, starting Dec.7, targeting monthly sales of 3,000 vehicles. No global sales plans have been decided, the world's biggest automaker said Tuesday.
Hybrids get better mileage than regular gasoline engine cars by switching between an electric motor and a gas engine. Other automakers are also beefing up their hybrid lineups, including hybrid-only models.

Government incentives, including cash-for-clunkers programs, and tax breaks are sending Prius orders soaring in Japan, with the waiting list for the car growing to several months.

Hybrid sales in Japan have been the one bright spot for Toyota, which has been losing money, battered by the global economic slump.

The Sai gets 23 kilometers per liter, or about 54 miles per gallon, double the mileage of a comparable regular gas-engine model, according to Toyota.

The Prius gets 38 kilometers per liter, which converts to about 90 miles per gallon under Japanese mileage-test conditions. It is promising 51 mpg in the city and 48 mpg on the highway in the U.S.

The Sai comes with a bigger 2.4 liter engine compared to the 1.8-liter Prius, is roomier and has fancier features such as an interior made from plastic that uses plant-derived materials.

It is also more expensive, starting at 3.38 million yen ($37,500). The third-generation Prius, which went on sale earlier this year, starts at just over 2 million yen ($22,000) in Japan and about $22,000 in the U.S.

The Sai looks rather sedate compared to the Prius with its more circular styling.
"This model shows our hopes to make hybrids more widespread," Toyota official Takuji Nakamoto told reporters.

The Sai will be sold at all dealer outlets in Japan, totaling some 4,000 nationwide, like the Prius. Some Toyota models are sold at just some of the showrooms because they are designed to appeal to certain kinds of consumers.

The Sai will be assembled at a Toyota Motor Kyushu plant in southwestern Japan, Toyota said.

The Prius is the world leader in gas-electric hybrid sales, selling more than 1.4 million vehicles since its debut a decade ago.
(Courtesy of Huffingtonpost)
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HS with a toyota badge.
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Old 10-20-09, 05:30 AM
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to be revealed at the Tokyo Motor Show 2009
sales will start on dec.
http://toyota.jp/sai/
http://toyota.vo.llnwd.net/e1/toyota/sai/index.html







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dang that interior's nice!
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The Sai gets 23 kilometers per liter, or about 54 miles per gallon, double the mileage of a comparable regular gas-engine model, according to Toyota.

Ummmm...


Why the Hell didn't the HS250h get this technology?
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Originally Posted by PhilipMSPT
Ummmm...


Why the Hell didn't the HS250h get this technology?
I can second that.

I would have probably gotten the HS if it has this type of tech.
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Not liking this move. Its bad enough people think the HS looks like a Corolla. Now they rebadged it under the Toyota nameplate with minimal changes.

Considering the HS has been a hit for the Lexus brand in Japan so far (which it needed), I see this Sai taking much needed sales away from the luxury brand.
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Originally Posted by PhilipMSPT
Ummmm...


Why the Hell didn't the HS250h get this technology?
I think the tech is the same. Its how fuel mileage is calculated in Japan. Notice it says the Prius gets 90mpg but in US its 50.
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Toyota Sai? More like Siamese twins (HS & this car). I heard on MSNBC that this car has a price tag of $37k.. Sigh....
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It looks like the Sai is priced lower than a base model HS in Japan. I wonder what the Sai is missing that the HS has?
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Originally Posted by GFerg
I think the tech is the same. Its how fuel mileage is calculated in Japan. Notice it says the Prius gets 90mpg but in US its 50.
Ahhhh...


So, it is the same as the HS250h.


I wonder why it's badged a Toyota instead of a Lexus?
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Well this will give internetz heroz more ammo against Lexus/Toyota......

Yeah I said it, Toyota, WTF?
 
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Originally Posted by GFerg
I think the tech is the same. Its how fuel mileage is calculated in Japan. Notice it says the Prius gets 90mpg but in US its 50.
Yup. I think they call it "10-15 mode" over there

http://www.eccj.or.jp/databook/1998e/p96.html
http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/c...10-15mode.html

And of course the newer and stricter JC08 fuel economy and emissions test cycle due to begin in 2015 (which is five years after Heisei 22 vehicle emission standards take into effect)

http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/cycles/jp_jc08.html
http://www.jama-english.jp/europe/ne...peternunn.html

I hope the information here helps

P.S.
This is just my personal opinion but IMHO, I think the Toyota Sai looks better than its Lexus sibling.

Just my two cents
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Originally Posted by Blackraven

P.S.
This is just my personal opinion but IMHO, I think the Toyota Sai looks better than its Lexus sibling.

Just my two cents
I agree.

The grill and wheels are much better on the Sai. Appropriate along with the rest of the car's design.

The taillights though are too generic. The HS250h, albeit odd, is distinctive.
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IMO this JDM version looks better than the USDM Hello Someday we're getting.
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