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Old 10-20-09, 09:14 PM
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Europe's largest automaker faces high hurdle in sluggish U.S. market



It may be one of the world’s most unlikely theme parks, yet each year close to 2 million people pore through Autostadt, the German “auto city” that celebrates the achievement of Europe’s largest automaker, Volkswagen AG.

Until it opened nearly a decade ago, Wolfsburg, less than a two hours' drive from Berlin, wasn’t much of a tourist destination, unless you liked gritty company towns. But these days, many folks are watching what Volkswagen is up to, especially the competition.

With nine brands, soon to become 10 with the planned 2011 takeover of Porsche, VW has set an aggressive goal of surpassing the unexpectedly troubled global leader, Toyota Motor Co. To get there, the “People’s Car” company will need to address the one big obstacle in its path: the U.S. market.

But with a new American factory set to open in 2011, and a planned successor to the Beetle that is being kept tightly under wraps and generating buzz, Volkwagen has a shot at that ambitious target.

It wasn’t always that way. Barely four years after the defeat of **** Germany, the first two Volkswagen Beetles reached the States. Within a decade, Volkswagen was the largest import brand in America. The little Beetle and the van that shared its platform became a symbol of the country’s counterculture in the 1960s, with sales surging to more than 400,000 units annually.

In the '70s, VW opened the first foreign-owned assembly line and began work on a second “transplant.” But the Beetle’s replacement — the small, fuel-efficient Rabbit — ran into a variety of problems. The automaker scuttled the second plant and then closed the first in Westmoreland, Pa. Despite its best efforts, sales steadily declined and by the early 1990s, VW gave serious thought to pulling out of the States entirely.

Then-CEO Ferdinand Piech, grandson of Volkswagen founder Ferdinand Porsche, decided to hang on, launching an array of new products backed by a series of quirky marketing campaigns. It seemed to work for a while. By the dawn of the new millennium, Volkswagen of America was setting new sales records.

But quality snags caught up to the company. Then exchange rates turned upside down, putting a severe burden on products like the Golf, the renamed and updated version of the Rabbit. European-made Volkswagens cost $3,000 to $4,000 more than American-made versions due to the lopsided exchange rate, said a frustrated Stefan Jacoby, chief executive of Volkswagen of America.

In years past, the German maker might have simply used that as an excuse to ignore the needs of the American market.

Not this time.



Despite the collapse of sales in the U.S., “The American market is crucial for us and Volkswagen is ready to make a difference in the market,” said Joachim Heizmann, the board member for Volkswagen overseeing production.

With Wolfsburg’s blessing, Jacoby has laid out an aggressive, some would say impossible, plan not only to stabilize U.S. sales but to more than double them, to 800,000, by 2018. To achieve that admittedly difficult target, he has convinced top management to sidestep the exchange rate issue by setting up a new American factory, this time in Chattanooga, Tenn., which will open in 2011.

The plant will produce, among other things, a new midsize sedan designed specifically for the American market. And VW is readying another model that it hopes will connect with U.S. consumers, an all-new version of the Beetle which will replace the current, slow-selling model.



“The Beetle successor will be a halo car that sells in large numbers,” Jacoby said during an interview at Autostadt this month.

VW has kept a tight veil over the program. Reports in the well-connected German media suggest the new car will be a markedly different offering than the current Beetle and will be based off an entirely new platform to be shared by a larger family of small Volkswagen offerings.

The new plant should help narrow the cost gap, but there are other issues, cautions analyst Joe Phillippi, of AutoTrends Consulting. For one thing, VW has to overcome concerns about quality. The latest studies by J.D. Power and Associates suggest Volkswagen's defect count is on the decline. And to assuage reluctant buyers, Jacoby approved a program providing free maintenance for buyers of new vehicles.

It is beginning to pay off. Brand loyalty, which plunged to just 29 percent mid-decade, is up to 40 percent, according to the VW executive. But that’s still well behind the 50 percent loyalty for top-tier brands, such as Toyota. (The figure refers to the percentage of owners who plan to buy the same brand again.)

Meanwhile, VW is gaining significant ground in key emerging markets. Its Shanghai-based operation has just sold its 5 millionth vehicle in China, where it remains locked in a battle for supremacy with General Motors.

The maker’s brands cover virtually every possible market niche, from Czech-based Skoda’s entry-level offerings to Bugatti’s $1.4 million supercars.

And so, even while global auto sales remain in a funk, VW gained 1.8 points of share during the last year worldwide and is approaching the 12 percent mark, slightly behind Toyota and GM. With Toyota running into a variety of problems, “it’s not unreachable” for the German maker to become the global king-of-the-hill in the next year or two, contends Christian Klingler, the VWAG board member overseeing marketing and sales.


And even if Toyota is able to resolve its near-term problems, Klingler says that, “By 2018, we have a clear goal to become No. 1 in the world.”

VW’s repeated setbacks in the U.S. market are a reminder that even the most well-founded plans can fall through.

But based on the company’s steady performance, in recent years, analysts like Phillippi say that of all the top-tier makers, VW is clearly one of the best-positioned to achieve its goals.
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And even if Toyota is able to resolve its near-term problems, Klingler says that, “By 2018, we have a clear goal to become No. 1 in the world.”
So we'll see in 8 years?

Fine with me.
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Most analysts agree that the timetable has been moved to the next two years up from 2018 barring any unforeseen dynamic turnaround at Toyota within the next 6-12 months.
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Volkswagen owns:
-Audi
-Bentley
-Bugatti
-Lamborghini
-SEAT
-Skoda
-Volkswagen

Technically they should have been #1 in sales a long time ago. Its amazing how well Toyota has sold with 3 brands, only one mainstream (Toyota) one only 20 years old (Lexus) and one what 5-6 years old (Scion).

This goes to my point of there being a handful of main car brands in the future. We simply will not have all these different brands.
 
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Technically they should have been #1 in sales a long time ago. Its amazing how well Toyota has sold with 3 brands, only one mainstream (Toyota) one only 20 years old (Lexus) and one what 5-6 years old (Scion).

This goes to my point of there being a handful of main car brands in the future. We simply will not have all these different brands.
Toyota also owns a part of Daihatsu and Hino...
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Toyota also owns a part of Daihatsu and Hino...
And Subie but they don't count the car sales. All those brands count toward VW sales.
 
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Originally Posted by FKL
Most analysts agree that the timetable has been moved to the next two years up from 2018 barring any unforeseen dynamic turnaround at Toyota within the next 6-12 months.
I guess we'll see in 2 years then...

If VW is willing to drop its European taste and build more Americanized cars (look to me that's what they are planning to do...) to gain sales and Toyota is willing to let its sales ditch but goes back to build excellent quality cars then personally I have no problem with VW taking number 1 spot at all.
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Volkswagen owns:
-Audi
-Bentley
-Bugatti
-Lamborghini
-SEAT
-Skoda
-Volkswagen

Technically they should have been #1 in sales a long time ago. Its amazing how well Toyota has sold with 3 brands, only one mainstream (Toyota) one only 20 years old (Lexus) and one what 5-6 years old (Scion).
Not amazing being that Bugatti, Bentley, and Lamborghini are extremely low volume brands and SEAT and Skoda are catering to small niche markets (less than 700,000 cars annually). The only large and all encompassing brands are Volkswagen, Audi, and now Porsche. IMO you're getting caught up in just the "big" numbers, that being "nine" brands.

What I think is "amazing" is that VW Group is number two in the world and yet only has 2% of the N. American auto market.
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Volkswagen can take the #1 spot, Toyota doesn't need it. Toyota is better known for quality, not volume. VW tends to get average reliability from consumer reports. Anyway, good for VW!
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Originally Posted by Haitwun
Volkswagen can take the #1 spot, Toyota doesn't need it. Toyota is better known for quality, not volume. VW tends to get average reliability from consumer reports. Anyway, good for VW!
I agree, Toyota dont need it, they should concentrate on quality again, not being the king of the hill. Not sure why VW wants this title, its nothing more than a ego trip for their CEOs. Even at number two, Toyota will be selling at a pretty good volume. When a company gets too big, the core message of the company usually gets lost.
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5 years ago or especially 10 years ago if you had told me VW was gunning for Toyota's spot... I would have laughed. Now days it seems it's actually plausible.

Their product lineup when considering all brands is VERY strong. They're extremely skilled at making cars that are fun to drive, attractive, comfortable, and just quirky enough to give people a sense of individuality (something Toyota fails at worse than anyone else with their mostly appliance-like image).

The only thing VW needs to do to take over the world is make their cars more reliable and easier to work on.

I would be a fool to say they can't do it at this point because they've shown they can do a lot that I didn't think they could do.

But I will still say I'd bet against them pulling it off.
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Saying that Toyota does not need the title of #1 in the world is probably not what the CEOs or shareholders would agree with.

If there's a passionate pursuit of perfection, then being close to perfect would be at #1, plus it's what everyone should be striving at. If you have good quality, reliable sales then why not strive for being #1!?

I think the German brand still has the upper hand on Lexus. Look how many of us right here in this very forum drool over the AMGs, Ss and M models.

The 3 series continues to hold that number one spot in it's class. Sure the IS is a nice car, but the 3 is a very sharp sporty car. If you take Toyota's reliability out of the picture for a moment, the 3 has many flavors to choose from. Besides a secret build that gave birth to the IS-F, there is nothing really sporty Toyota has to offer. Which again points directly to the German options, if you are looking for a sporty ride.

With complaints of Toyota's interior choice of plastics, muddy product lines like: LS & Camry are too similar in styling, Prius and HS etc., Boring LX, Aging GX, etc. etc., now the floor mats issue, it's clear that Toyota is losing it's grip on -holding- onto that #1 position......and now has to rethink and retool.

What I'm saying is, if they loose the 'eye of the tiger' if they are not 'hungry enough' there is more than CEO egos at stake, they loose sales and reputations.

That said, I'm speaking from the perspective of a Toyota fan.
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story has been on the front of msnbc.com all morning
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Originally Posted by FKL
story has been on the front of msnbc.com all morning
This story have been unfolding for about a year now. If Toyota have their head on straight, then should concentrate on improving quality instead of staying number one. I have own Toyota or Lexus for almost 20 years, the reason I don’t have one in my driveway today is that the quality is not what it used to be. I am willing to give up the fun factor, styling and a solidly built car for reliability, low price and quality, but I will not choose a car solely on reliability. Toyota need to go back to their roots and start over with the attributes that got them where they today.
I know it’s easier said than done, but they should forget all the share holder, lock all the bean counters and lawyers in their office and let the engineers and marketing people design cars that they want and not try selling cars at a high volume and stay number one.
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Originally Posted by The G Man
This story have been unfolding for about a year now. If Toyota have their head on straight, then should concentrate on improving quality instead of staying number one. I have own Toyota or Lexus for almost 20 years, the reason I don’t have one in my driveway today is that the quality is not what it used to be. I am willing to give up the fun factor, styling and a solidly built car for reliability, low price and quality, but I will not choose a car solely on reliability. Toyota need to go back to their roots and start over with the attributes that got them where they today.
I know it’s easier said than done, but they should forget all the share holder, lock all the bean counters and lawyers in their office and let the engineers and marketing people design cars that they want and not try selling cars at a high volume and stay number one.
Toyota has acknowledged their quality issues. VW seems oblivious to them. They continues to rank near the rear in quality. If ANYONE needs to focus on quality, its VW.
 


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