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Old 11-14-09 | 12:18 PM
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http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...lumn?track=rss

I really like the car, and possibly after the initial deprtiation I would love to pick one up.
Old 11-14-09 | 12:40 PM
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Gullwings, of course, are nice for parking in tight areas and for ease of entry/exit, but also have their drawbacks. Unless they are assembled and installed with exact laser precision, they can develop annoying water leaks....sometimes right in your lap. They also, because of their shape and hinge motion, cut more deeply into the rooflines more than conventional doors, weakening the roof's structural integrity and increasing the likelihood of creaks, squeaks, and rattles....something that the former T-Tops like the Camaro and Buick Regal were notorious for.

The famous DeLorean stainless-steel sports car was a classic example of gull-wing problems. They never got the design or assembly precision correct at the Northern Ireland plant where those cars were made...one reason, among many, why the car was unsuccessful and not more popular than it was.
Old 11-15-09 | 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Gullwings, of course, are nice for parking in tight areas and for ease of entry/exit, but also have their drawbacks. Unless they are assembled and installed with exact laser precision, they can develop annoying water leaks....sometimes right in your lap. They also, because of their shape and hinge motion, cut more deeply into the rooflines more than conventional doors, weakening the roof's structural integrity and increasing the likelihood of creaks, squeaks, and rattles....something that the former T-Tops like the Camaro and Buick Regal were notorious for.

The famous DeLorean stainless-steel sports car was a classic example of gull-wing problems. They never got the design or assembly precision correct at the Northern Ireland plant where those cars were made...one reason, among many, why the car was unsuccessful and not more popular than it was.
Did it every occur to you that years of R&D would lead to progress in all of the areas you brought up?
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Originally Posted by Pearlpower
Did it every occur to you that years of R&D would lead to progress in all of the areas you brought up?
Of course, progress has occurred, but that doesn't necessarily overcome a basic design weakness. Take convertibles, for instance....another example. Cowl shake, from a variety of factors, has been greatly reduced in most new models, but it is still there to some extent.

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I am not blown away by the styling at all. It looks like a watered down SLR, and even the SLR look weird at many angles
Old 11-16-09 | 01:46 AM
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I like the throwback nature of it all, but it's such an ugly car. At least it's not an automatic.
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I love that it tries to retain some of it's former glory in a new package. This car is bound to be hated by many, as it's a re-creation of one of the most iconic cars ever built. Personally, I'd pick this over the SLR.
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although an extreme case if the car rolls and ends upside down, you cant open the door in lambo, gullwing style doors
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Originally Posted by bad co
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...lumn?track=rss

I really like the car, and possibly after the initial deprtiation I would love to pick one up.
Initial depreciation you will possibly pick one up? Good luck.. How much is older brother SLR going for these days?


Another classic car by by Mercedes right here.. We will see this car in another 20 to 30 years going for mega bucks at Barrett Jackson.
Old 11-16-09 | 07:56 AM
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Wasn't a big fan of the SLR styling, but I'm loving this one
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Originally Posted by 4TehNguyen
although an extreme case if the car rolls and ends upside down, you cant open the door in lambo, gullwing style doors
"Indeed, it went to a huge amount of bother to build a super-sports car with the trademark gullwing doors. In order to get the doors past the Feds' safety standards, the engineers had to build in pyrotechnic hinges so that, if the car should overturn, the hinges would blow and passengers could escape.

Dear God, that's cool."
Old 11-16-09 | 08:48 AM
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I've seen better. And lol about t-top crappy GM cars, etc.
Old 11-16-09 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by IS-SV
I've seen better. And lol about t-top crappy GM cars, etc.
As far as LOL is concerned, it's hard not to laugh at the way some of those older GM cars cars were built....and some Chrysler products were even worse.
Old 11-16-09 | 09:27 AM
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It is a great look car, a classic for sure. If I had the room and the $$$ I would buy one.
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i like it!



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