The G Man

Is it possible, an Audi with such poor weight distrubution can beat a perfectly balance BMW at its own game:



http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=8369

Joeb427

iTrader: (1)

BMW is getting a bit smacked around by Audi.
First the S4 beating out the 335i in Car & Driver and now the TTS over the 135i.

DASHOCKER

iTrader: (2)

The TTS is a very nice car. I actually love the TTRS much more as I was very close to getting one. 335 love got me This Audi is a hot car! The next 135 is in testing right now so Audi may need to get back to the drawing board.

IS-SV

Yes, due to AWD. But then why would I want a sawed-off looking BMW....

The G Man

The 3 series is BMW's bread and butter and the 1 series were suppose to be the BMW's poor man's 3 series. I am guessing BMW will not like being beaten at their own game, which is performance. One top of that, the interiors of these Audi are much nicer than that BMW.
I truely hope these two *** whipping will wake BMW up, they are no longer an automatic choice for anyone looking for a performance car. BMW really need to step up their interior and exterior designs. VW's new merger with Porsche will only help Audi in term of performance. All this will help us as consumer, we will have more to choose from and get more cars for our money.

DASHOCKER

iTrader: (2)

I would not go as far as calling the 1 series "a poor man's 335." There are some vast differences in the hardware on both cars.. For instance, the 6 pot brakes on the 1 series. Both cars offer a different driving experience also. These are magazine tests.. One really has to drive these cars to get the feel.. From my time behind the wheel of Audi's, the classic Audi body roll & front heaviness is still evident. BMW is still the king of driving dynamics & will continue to be a step or two or three ahead of the competition.

LexFather

what? BMW fools Americans sending only the 1 coupe and the big engine ones. The car is an entry level subcompact in Europe with tons of weak engines and diesels. They get 2 and 5 door hatchbacks.

That said I always had a thing for the 135 coupe and I'd rock one b4 the 3. I really like it! What a sleeper!

The G Man

Personal perference aside, the test data dont lie. Of course one's perfect driving experience is different from another. I perdonally like Audi's more relax driving experience and if I want to open it up, I can play with the best BMW can offer as stated in this comparo. While BMW still offer a good performance driving experience, their everyday driving experience is really lacking behind. It all really start with that awful interior, personally, I cannot feel good about looking at that BMW interior on a long drive. The Audi and BMW driving experience is just different, BMW is design for performance and nothing else, while Audi is much more well rounded in its design.
Body roll, front heaviness aside, this little TTS beat the all mighty 1 series in handling. BMW cannot be sitting comfortable right now, my guess is that their R&D dept is working double shift as we speak.

I8ABMR

I am not surprised. I have a feeling many are aiming directly at the BMW 3 series

kyang91

iTrader: (5)

I think the Audi TTs and a very nice car......but I really would want to see what the TTRs is gonna be.

MR_F1

I like the one coupe, but IMHO it needed to be lighter.

Faymester

I'm so the wrong person to comment on the 1 since it landed in my rejection pile

The G Man

BMW should have done more with the one design instead of just chopping off the 3 series, the car just do not look proportional.

newr

Audi TTS.... $52K... WOW!

IS-SV

The pricing of both these small cars explains the very low sales volume.