2010 BMW 5-series official thread (sold out, 3-4 month wait)
04-16-10, 08:31 PM
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04-16-10, 08:32 PM
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Good. Now give us a $40k, 4 cylinder turbo. Glad to see the price of midsize of luxury is still coming down. This is right where it should be. IMO it had gotten a bit out of hand.
04-17-10, 03:09 AM
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if bmw prices the 535 and 550 similarly, that would mean the 535i could be had starting at 49000.
not much more expensive than a base model infiniti m37.
pretty much a no brainer. I'd get a 535i over the m37.
frankly, I can live with leatherette seats. they're all covered with some kind of coating anyway.
even alcantara i'm ok with. all synthetic stuff
not much more expensive than a base model infiniti m37.
pretty much a no brainer. I'd get a 535i over the m37.
frankly, I can live with leatherette seats. they're all covered with some kind of coating anyway.
even alcantara i'm ok with. all synthetic stuff
Also the 550i will be priced starting at roughly 60K, which is only a bit more than the M56.
This does not look good for Infiniti, especially with the E350 and E550 very competitively priced as well.
If Lexus prices the next-gen GS competitively, Infiniti will have a real problem on their hands.
On looks and brand prestige alone, the BMW wins IMHO.
04-17-10, 05:00 AM
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the new 5 series looks great in person. Ive seen both 535 & 550 at NY autoshow. If I had to choose between the new M and the new 5 series, I'd go with bmw. I cant remember the exact price of 535i, but it was somewhere in the 40ies. Bmw is making a smart move in current economy.
04-17-10, 07:16 AM
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So a base 528i is priced cheaper than an M37, and a 535i will start at roughly 50K, not much more than an M37. 528i now has 240 HP, and should do 0-60 in the mid-6 second range.
Also the 550i will be priced starting at roughly 60K, which is only a bit more than the M56.
This does not look good for Infiniti, especially with the E350 and E550 very competitively priced as well.
If Lexus prices the next-gen GS competitively, Infiniti will have a real problem on their hands.
On looks and brand prestige alone, the BMW wins IMHO.
Also the 550i will be priced starting at roughly 60K, which is only a bit more than the M56.
This does not look good for Infiniti, especially with the E350 and E550 very competitively priced as well.
If Lexus prices the next-gen GS competitively, Infiniti will have a real problem on their hands.
On looks and brand prestige alone, the BMW wins IMHO.
04-17-10, 08:13 AM
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Munich says both fuel consumption and CO2 emissions are improved by 10% and a zero-emissions EV mode is available, as the hybrid 5 is a full hybrid.
04-17-10, 03:19 PM
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exactly my thinking. I don't care if the m37S beats the bmw by a little on a few performance benchmarks.
the bmw is the less uglier of the two.
leave the wavy crap and radical styling to hyundai.
there are decades of heritage behind the bmw. 6 years of m35 is not enough to beat the bmw.
When i was shopping for my car in 2007, the local bmw dealership had stripped models available.
leatherette and all.
in contrast, the infiniti always had the premium package tacked on at an extra cost. That's how they ordered them.
so in my area, base prices are fair game.
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04-17-10, 03:23 PM
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If Infiniti will continue to offer big discounts on the Infiniti M, then that means they failed with the pricing and priced it too high.
Both the new E-Class and 5 Series have lower MSRPs than their previous generations, so these new models are priced closer to "out the door" prices. In other words, they are priced more realistically, and that likely means BMW and Benz will spend less on incentives.
04-17-10, 03:29 PM
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and maybe it's just me, but i kinda miss chris bangle..
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04-17-10, 03:29 PM
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exactly my thinking. I don't care if the m37S beats the bmw by a little on a few performance benchmarks.
the bmw is the less uglier of the two.
leave the wavy crap and radical styling to hyundai.
there are decades of heritage behind the bmw. 6 years of m35 is not enough to beat the bmw.
the bmw is the less uglier of the two.
leave the wavy crap and radical styling to hyundai.
there are decades of heritage behind the bmw. 6 years of m35 is not enough to beat the bmw.
People go to Lexus mostly for luxury, great service and reliability (and more recently hybrids). People go to Benz for luxury and prestige, and they go to BMW mostly for performance. What are people going to go to Infiniti for, to get an imitation BMW? The G37 sells well because it offers great value. This new M doesn't seem to offer as much of a value as the old model.
04-17-10, 03:31 PM
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You get what you pay for. The options and choices available on the 5 Series blow away the Infiniti M. So much so, that you can customize the build of your specific 5 Series to a great degree. Yes you pay more for that, but like I said, you get what you pay for.
04-17-10, 03:59 PM
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but those options are so expensive. much more than infiniti ever will be.
04-17-10, 06:25 PM
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I loved the butt then and will always love the butt!
04-18-10, 08:41 PM
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The 5 Series hasn't looked good since the E39.
I wonder when BMW designers will stop making the headlamps saggy/droopy, which along w/ a more curvy signature BMW kidney grill, gives the front a soft, saggy look instead of a more angular, aggressive look.
Also wish the designers would also give the greenhouse/Hofmeister kink a more aggressive design as well (other manufacturers have improved upon the BMW greenhouse/C-pillar).
The new 5 is pretty much as boring-looking as the new 7; well, at least the interior/dash has improved.
I wonder when BMW designers will stop making the headlamps saggy/droopy, which along w/ a more curvy signature BMW kidney grill, gives the front a soft, saggy look instead of a more angular, aggressive look.
Also wish the designers would also give the greenhouse/Hofmeister kink a more aggressive design as well (other manufacturers have improved upon the BMW greenhouse/C-pillar).
The new 5 is pretty much as boring-looking as the new 7; well, at least the interior/dash has improved.