2010 BMW 5-series official thread (sold out, 3-4 month wait)
11-24-09, 07:36 AM
#77
Ipod integration, heated steering wheel, vat dyed leather (no semi anything), fit & finish of these cars speak volumes.
This 5 will have many configuration options available including the ability to customize your car through the BMW individual program.
Bring on the mighty M5!
11-24-09, 07:52 AM
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I honestly have no issues with BMW going back to one sausage style, 3 different lengths
11-24-09, 07:56 AM
#80
No comparison to the new I-drive interface.
11-24-09, 07:58 AM
#81
Every articles I read agree that Lexus' remote touch is a better execution than the rotating *****. Sure everybody gets used to something eventually, heck, even the 1st gen i-Drive will be second nature to those who have been used it over a long period of time. The catch here is which one is more intuitive and requires least amount of the training curve.
11-24-09, 08:03 AM
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Looking good. 
The only thing bothering me are those creases on the hood which somehow disrupt the flow of the rather pleasing design. The wider kidney grille hood enables the car to appear more masculine, broad-shouldered (aka sporty and subtly aggressive) and wider (visually), which I think are attributes that any BMW sedan should have - and this car, judging from the photos, has 'em.
When I see the machine in real life I will be able to make up my mind but for now it looks good. Really good.
The only thing bothering me are those creases on the hood which somehow disrupt the flow of the rather pleasing design. The wider kidney grille hood enables the car to appear more masculine, broad-shouldered (aka sporty and subtly aggressive) and wider (visually), which I think are attributes that any BMW sedan should have - and this car, judging from the photos, has 'em.
When I see the machine in real life I will be able to make up my mind but for now it looks good. Really good.
11-24-09, 08:03 AM
#83
1. Make the screen larger and brighter (legit improvement)
2. gold-plate, platinum-plate or even titanium-plate the remote touch controls so the haters don't have to ***** about it...
However, it still doesn't change the fact that the remote touch is a better EXECUTION and more user friend than the "*****".
We are talking about the "function" part here, not the quality of the material or screen size. Geez...
11-24-09, 08:07 AM
#84
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The new BMW interiors are not boring once you sit in it and experience the various creature comforts. The new I-drive is leaps & bounds better than the old version, Audi's MMI, and the Lexus system. The resolution & available internet access alone makes the systems inside of the competition comparable to a Commodore 64
Ipod integration, heated steering wheel, vat dyed leather (no semi anything), fit & finish of these cars speak volumes.
This 5 will have many configuration options available including the ability to customize your car through the BMW individual program.
Bring on the mighty M5!
Ipod integration, heated steering wheel, vat dyed leather (no semi anything), fit & finish of these cars speak volumes.
This 5 will have many configuration options available including the ability to customize your car through the BMW individual program.
Bring on the mighty M5!
I had some seat time with the new i-drive, although it has improve, it is still not as user friendly as the Audi MMI or the Lexus system. BMW basically copy Audi's MMI system by using the four corner buttons. Audi just introduce the gen 3 MMI which is better than BMW's latest version of the I-drive. As far as the Lexus system, it just doesn’t get much easier to use, BMW is way behind Lexus as far as intuitiveness.
I don’t think anyone have question BMW's interior material or their technology, most of the complains are for interior styling. BMW is a traditional company, but does their designs have to be so boring in order to stay traditional?
11-24-09, 08:10 AM
#85
I guess we just have a different view of what works on an interior, Sean. To me, a **** that can only rotate or be pushed is a lot less intuitive than something with a free range of motion like a joy stick. I also feel like the shape of the controller is more natural when resting your hand on it. Idrive doesn't have a similar support, by design.
I welcome an open-minded conversation on the issue but saying that Remote Touch feels like cheap plastic and that the nav screen looks like your "old Magellan" just doesn't really make you seem all that... open-minded.
I welcome an open-minded conversation on the issue but saying that Remote Touch feels like cheap plastic and that the nav screen looks like your "old Magellan" just doesn't really make you seem all that... open-minded.
11-24-09, 08:10 AM
#86
I have to agree with Dash here, the remote touch is awful and cheap. But saying that I-drive is "leaps & bounds better than the old version, Audi's MMI, and the Lexus system", is like saying that swine flu is leaps and bounds better than anthrax, aids and syphilis.
11-24-09, 08:13 AM
#87
Okay, just to make you feel better... Hey Lexus, can you do the following to improve the remote touch?
1. Make the screen larger and brighter (legit improvement)
2. gold-plate, platinum-plate or even titanium-plate the remote touch controls so the haters don't have to ***** about it...
However, it still doesn't change the fact that the remote touch is a better EXECUTION and more user friend than the "*****".
We are talking about the "function" part here, not the quality of the material or screen size. Geez...
1. Make the screen larger and brighter (legit improvement)
2. gold-plate, platinum-plate or even titanium-plate the remote touch controls so the haters don't have to ***** about it...
However, it still doesn't change the fact that the remote touch is a better EXECUTION and more user friend than the "*****".
We are talking about the "function" part here, not the quality of the material or screen size. Geez...
Think I-pod with the addition of shortcut buttons.
Your experience OF BOTH is based on the following correct?
Last edited by DASHOCKER; 11-24-09 at 08:16 AM.
11-24-09, 08:18 AM
#88
I've had the HS250h for one week with the remote touch and 328i with the iDrive for 6 days so umm... yeah, I've experienced both.
Although it's not pointless about what you think but when 99.9% of the auto editors all agree that the remote touch is a better execution in terms of functionality and user friendly (read: NOT quality and screen size) then I think it's pretty obvious which one is the better system.
Although it's not pointless about what you think but when 99.9% of the auto editors all agree that the remote touch is a better execution in terms of functionality and user friendly (read: NOT quality and screen size) then I think it's pretty obvious which one is the better system.
Last edited by ffpowerLN; 11-24-09 at 09:46 AM.
11-24-09, 08:20 AM
#89
The BMW's interior can have the technology of the space shuttle and it will still be boring because it looks like it belongs in the a funeral home. They need to spice up their interior design and step into the 21th century.
I had some seat time with the new i-drive, although it has improve, it is still not as user friendly as the Audi MMI or the Lexus system. BMW basically copy Audi's MMI system by using the four corner buttons. Audi just introduce the gen 3 MMI which is better than BMW's latest version of the I-drive. As far as the Lexus system, it just doesn’t get much easier to use, BMW is way behind Lexus as far as intuitiveness.
I don’t think anyone have question BMW's interior material or their technology, most of the complains are for interior styling. BMW is a traditional company, but does their designs have to be so boring in order to stay traditional?
I had some seat time with the new i-drive, although it has improve, it is still not as user friendly as the Audi MMI or the Lexus system. BMW basically copy Audi's MMI system by using the four corner buttons. Audi just introduce the gen 3 MMI which is better than BMW's latest version of the I-drive. As far as the Lexus system, it just doesn’t get much easier to use, BMW is way behind Lexus as far as intuitiveness.
I don’t think anyone have question BMW's interior material or their technology, most of the complains are for interior styling. BMW is a traditional company, but does their designs have to be so boring in order to stay traditional?
