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Old 11-25-09, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by The G Man
They probably back out on purpose after some thought. Owning a failing car in this economy with so many car comapnies on the chopping block is a death wish. It is probably better if just Saab die than Saab dragging Koenigsegg down with them.
I couldn't agree more, but I still think that Koenigsegg needs to make an entrance into the (relatively) affordable car scene, regardless.
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Originally Posted by FisforFast
I couldn't agree more, but I still think that Koenigsegg needs to make an entrance into the (relatively) affordable car scene, regardless.
By affordable, I hope you mean like a $250000 car, because most of these specialty car companies don’t know how to make a $30000 car.
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Originally Posted by The G Man
By affordable, I hope you mean like a $250000 car, because most of these specialty car companies don’t know how to make a $30000 car.
Hence the 'relatively' in brackets.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
I agree.....both were questionble from a market standpoint (and it showed in low sales), but, a least, the 9-2X, being a redone, upmarket Subaru Impreza, was a reliable car with an excellent AWD system, something that can't always be said for other Saabs.
Good point but it lacked the quirkiness of a Saab - the Night Panel, the aircraft-inspired maplights, the ignition in the centre. An Impreza doesn't have a level of luxury a Saab can provide. It's like outfitting a Prius with leather. That doesn't make it a luxury car.
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Originally Posted by Nextourer
Good point but it lacked the quirkiness of a Saab - the Night Panel, the aircraft-inspired maplights, the ignition in the centre. An Impreza doesn't have a level of luxury a Saab can provide. It's like outfitting a Prius with leather. That doesn't make it a luxury car.
But that's almost exactly what they did with the HS250h.
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Originally Posted by Nextourer
Good point but it lacked the quirkiness of a Saab - the Night Panel, the aircraft-inspired maplights, the ignition in the centre. An Impreza doesn't have a level of luxury a Saab can provide. It's like outfitting a Prius with leather. That doesn't make it a luxury car.
With today's push-button ignition systems, Saab doesn't HAVE to put the ignition down on the console with the shift lever any more. That was done, far the most part, as a safety measure, to keep the column/dash ignition key from gouging you if the front-seat occupants you were tossed forward (or sideways) in a crash. With flat-surface push- buttons, that is no longer necessary.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
With today's push-button ignition systems, Saab doesn't HAVE to put the ignition down on the console with the shift lever any more. That was done, far the most part, as a safety measure, to keep the column/dash ignition key from gouging you if the front-seat occupants you were tossed forward (or sideways) in a crash. With flat-surface push- buttons, that is no longer necessary.
Yeah, I never cared for that.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
With today's push-button ignition systems, Saab doesn't HAVE to put the ignition down on the console with the shift lever any more. That was done, far the most part, as a safety measure, to keep the column/dash ignition key from gouging you if the front-seat occupants you were tossed forward (or sideways) in a crash. With flat-surface push- buttons, that is no longer necessary.
Then why does Audi have their push-button start next to the shift lever? Or the McLaren SLR, integrated into the shifter?
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Originally Posted by FisforFast
Then why does Audi have their push-button start next to the shift lever? Or the McLaren SLR, integrated into the shifter?
Because that's where they felt like putting it.
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Because that's where they felt like putting it.
No need to be a ****. It's because it makes you feel like you're in a fighter jet or an attack helicopter.
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Wonderful because if that's one of the few notable features of a Saab, it's archaic, outdated, gimmicky and nothing to do with safety today with proper airbags (including knee air bags) and retention systems.

Who cares, it's the least of their problems.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
With today's push-button ignition systems, Saab doesn't HAVE to put the ignition down on the console with the shift lever any more. That was done, far the most part, as a safety measure, to keep the column/dash ignition key from gouging you if the front-seat occupants you were tossed forward (or sideways) in a crash. With flat-surface push- buttons, that is no longer necessary.
True about the safety thing but buttons can still be on the console (e.g. Jaguar XF or Bentley Continental Flying Spur)

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But that's almost exactly what they did with the HS250h.
Almost. We don't know if it was designed as a Lexus or a Toyota.

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No need to be a ****. It's because it makes you feel like you're in a fighter jet or an attack helicopter.
What about on the steering wheel? The LF-A has a key and a push button start. Twist the key to ON and press the button on the steering wheel.
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