Toyota recalls and related issues: BusinessWeek-Media owes Toyota an apology
#1386
Some quick, minor updates:
An Automotive News includes this passage:
http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dl...307019971/1292
Also, an Associated Press story quotes Japan's Yomiuri in stating that Toyota won't inform the Japanese transport ministry of a recall until Monday 5 July.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT
Putting the two stories together, it seems that the recall involves 90,000 cars in Japan, 170,000 in the U.S. and 10,000 in other markets, for a total of 270,000. It is unclear whether Canada is lumped in with the U.S. or with the 10,000 for "other markets".
UPDATE: David Shepardson of the Detroit News Washington Bureau cites a seemingly more realistic split of 90,000 cars in Japan, 135,000 in the U.S. and 45,000 in other markets, for a total of 270,000.
http://detnews.com/article/20100701/...l-over-engines
An Automotive News includes this passage:
Mark Templin, Lexus Division general manager, said that an internal investigation shows that, “during the manufacturing process, some contaminated materials were used in the manufacture of valve springs which could involve noise or rough idlings, and even stall.”
Of the 270,000 engines involved, 170,000 are in the U.S., Templin said.
“We have had very few customer complaints related to this issue...less than 1 percent of vehicles affected,” Templin said. “It does not include vehicles selling now.”
No accidents or injuries have been reported, Toyota said, related to the stalling issue. Toyota said that in rare cases, the stall may occur while the sedans are being driven.
Of the 270,000 engines involved, 170,000 are in the U.S., Templin said.
“We have had very few customer complaints related to this issue...less than 1 percent of vehicles affected,” Templin said. “It does not include vehicles selling now.”
No accidents or injuries have been reported, Toyota said, related to the stalling issue. Toyota said that in rare cases, the stall may occur while the sedans are being driven.
Also, an Associated Press story quotes Japan's Yomiuri in stating that Toyota won't inform the Japanese transport ministry of a recall until Monday 5 July.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT
Putting the two stories together, it seems that the recall involves 90,000 cars in Japan, 170,000 in the U.S. and 10,000 in other markets, for a total of 270,000. It is unclear whether Canada is lumped in with the U.S. or with the 10,000 for "other markets".
UPDATE: David Shepardson of the Detroit News Washington Bureau cites a seemingly more realistic split of 90,000 cars in Japan, 135,000 in the U.S. and 45,000 in other markets, for a total of 270,000.
http://detnews.com/article/20100701/...l-over-engines
Last edited by jruhi4; 07-01-10 at 02:54 PM.
#1387
Lexus USA's first official comment on this issue, which repeats much of what was stated in the previous post:
Lexus U.S. Statement Regarding Potential Valve Spring Issue
Lexus has discovered faulty valve springs in some V8 and V6 engines in certain Lexus models sold in the U.S. Due to slight variations during the manufacturing process, some foreign material may have contaminated the valve springs resulting in potential breakage.
In such a situation, there is a remote possibility that abnormal engine noise or idling may occur. In extremely rare instances, the engine may stop while the vehicle is in operation.
Lexus has not received any reports of accidents or injuries related to this issue.
Approximately 137,000 vehicles are potentially affected in the U.S., including the IS 350, GS 350, GS 460, GS 450h, LS 460, LS 600h L.
Current model years are not affected.
Lexus is moving quickly to resolve the situation and will announce an appropriate remedy as soon as possible.
“In the meantime, we sincerely apologize to our customers for any inconvenience and request that they contact their nearest Lexus dealer if they believe there is a problem with their vehicle,” said Mark Templin, group vice president and general manager of the U.S. Lexus Division.
Lexus Vehicles : Lexus U.S. Statement Regarding Potential Valve Spring Issue / Toyota
Lexus U.S. Statement Regarding Potential Valve Spring Issue
Lexus has discovered faulty valve springs in some V8 and V6 engines in certain Lexus models sold in the U.S. Due to slight variations during the manufacturing process, some foreign material may have contaminated the valve springs resulting in potential breakage.
In such a situation, there is a remote possibility that abnormal engine noise or idling may occur. In extremely rare instances, the engine may stop while the vehicle is in operation.
Lexus has not received any reports of accidents or injuries related to this issue.
Approximately 137,000 vehicles are potentially affected in the U.S., including the IS 350, GS 350, GS 460, GS 450h, LS 460, LS 600h L.
Current model years are not affected.
Lexus is moving quickly to resolve the situation and will announce an appropriate remedy as soon as possible.
“In the meantime, we sincerely apologize to our customers for any inconvenience and request that they contact their nearest Lexus dealer if they believe there is a problem with their vehicle,” said Mark Templin, group vice president and general manager of the U.S. Lexus Division.
Lexus Vehicles : Lexus U.S. Statement Regarding Potential Valve Spring Issue / Toyota
#1388
Lexus Champion
A bit of news in to what started all this.
http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/stock-mar...oyotas---nhtsa
WASHINGTON -(Dow Jones)- U.S. regulators have yet to find any electronic defects in Toyota Motor Corp. (TM) vehicles, a U.S. vehicle-safety official reiterated Wednesday, as a scientific panel began studying potential causes of unintended acceleration.
Some members of Congress, consumer advocates and product-liability lawyers have suggested that engine electronics may have played a role in problems that led Toyota to recall more than eight million vehicles globally for sudden- acceleration and gas-pedal problems. Those critics have questioned the adequacy of efforts by Toyota and government regulators to study electronics.
"We have not actually been able to find a defect of electronic-throttle- control systems" in Toyota cars, said Dan Smith of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, speaking before a panel of the National Academy of Sciences.
He said regulators have only been able to identify two causes of the Toyota problems--floormat entrapment of the gas pedals and pedals that are slow to return to idle.
The academy is undertaking a broad study of unintended acceleration and will eventually offer recommendations on how regulators should improve their ability to set standards and identify defects.
Smith said his agency hasn't ruled out the possibility of electronic defects and that investigations are ongoing. NHTSA is working with NASA engineers to study the Toyota recalls, including possible electronics defects.
NHTSA chief David Strickland told the academy panel that unintended acceleration is a problem that affects all major car manufacturers.
"Complaints of unintended acceleration are not--repeat not--exclusive to Toyota," Strickland said.
Another NHTSA official, Roger Saul, told the panel that the agency has, since Toyota's first recall in October, received complaints of 64 crashes involving 78 deaths, some years ago. Regulators have been able to verify that only one of those incidents was caused by a vehicle defect, Saul said.
Read more: http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/stock-mar...#ixzz0sTZb4mfV
Some members of Congress, consumer advocates and product-liability lawyers have suggested that engine electronics may have played a role in problems that led Toyota to recall more than eight million vehicles globally for sudden- acceleration and gas-pedal problems. Those critics have questioned the adequacy of efforts by Toyota and government regulators to study electronics.
"We have not actually been able to find a defect of electronic-throttle- control systems" in Toyota cars, said Dan Smith of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, speaking before a panel of the National Academy of Sciences.
He said regulators have only been able to identify two causes of the Toyota problems--floormat entrapment of the gas pedals and pedals that are slow to return to idle.
The academy is undertaking a broad study of unintended acceleration and will eventually offer recommendations on how regulators should improve their ability to set standards and identify defects.
Smith said his agency hasn't ruled out the possibility of electronic defects and that investigations are ongoing. NHTSA is working with NASA engineers to study the Toyota recalls, including possible electronics defects.
NHTSA chief David Strickland told the academy panel that unintended acceleration is a problem that affects all major car manufacturers.
"Complaints of unintended acceleration are not--repeat not--exclusive to Toyota," Strickland said.
Another NHTSA official, Roger Saul, told the panel that the agency has, since Toyota's first recall in October, received complaints of 64 crashes involving 78 deaths, some years ago. Regulators have been able to verify that only one of those incidents was caused by a vehicle defect, Saul said.
Read more: http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/stock-mar...#ixzz0sTZb4mfV
http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/stock-mar...oyotas---nhtsa
#1389
exclusive matchup
iTrader: (4)
http://content.usatoday.com/communit...ling-problem/1
so for sure it's coming, just need to wait and see what year specifically, and whether it's all cars or only specific vin
UPDATE 8:25 p.m. ET: Toyota Motor just said in Tokyo that it will recall 270,000 vehicles worldwide next Monday to fix engines with a valve spring problem that could cause them to stall. Spokesman Paul Nolasco said said vehicles include seven models (years so far unspecified) of luxury Lexus sedans and Japan's popular Crown. Of the 270,000 vehicles, some 137,000 were sold in the U.S. Nolasco said Toyota will inform Japan's transport ministry of a recall of 90,000 vehicles there on Monday. The U.S. recall could be announced as early as today.
#1390
http://www.lexus.com/pdf/Lexus_Valve_Spring.pdf
Official: 137,000 possible affected in US, namely: IS 350, GS 350/460/450h, LS 460/600hL.
Looking at total sales figures (US):
2006 IS 250/350 54,267
2007 IS 250/350 54,933
2008 IS 250/350/F 49,432
2006 GS 300/430 unaffected
2007 GS 350/430/450h 23,381
2008 GS 350/460/450h 15,759
2007 LS 460/600hL 35,226
2008 LS 460/600hL 20,255
Total 253,253; thus > than 137,000 which may be affected. The GS + LS total: 94,621. IS numbers alone: 158,632. To be excluded from this total: IS 250, GS 430, and all IS/GS/LS models that are produced after the cutoff date when the defective robot was discovered. Probably all Kyushu-produced IS models as well.
Official: 137,000 possible affected in US, namely: IS 350, GS 350/460/450h, LS 460/600hL.
Looking at total sales figures (US):
2006 IS 250/350 54,267
2007 IS 250/350 54,933
2008 IS 250/350/F 49,432
2006 GS 300/430 unaffected
2007 GS 350/430/450h 23,381
2008 GS 350/460/450h 15,759
2007 LS 460/600hL 35,226
2008 LS 460/600hL 20,255
Total 253,253; thus > than 137,000 which may be affected. The GS + LS total: 94,621. IS numbers alone: 158,632. To be excluded from this total: IS 250, GS 430, and all IS/GS/LS models that are produced after the cutoff date when the defective robot was discovered. Probably all Kyushu-produced IS models as well.
#1394
Lexus Fanatic
I will ask my service rep when I take the car in for a new stereo in a week or so. My service rep is the best in the business ( Bell Lexus is #1 for customer service in the United States). He will know how to get the real info. I am going to have this done . I do have , and have had, some ruff idling etc from day one.