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Old 12-01-09, 03:28 PM
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some of these press releases are hillarious
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A few notes...

The TL has really fallen off...now down with the "also rans" in the segment. Acura is dying faster than I thought they would, despite a spike in MDX and RDX sales.

Cadillac outsold Acura again last month and I expect that trend to continue. Buick is nipping on their heels and will probably pass them next month with LaCrosse sales ramping up.

Last month Lincoln was down 20% but outsold Infiniti by almost a thousand units...that is pretty substantial. The weak EX and FX are clearly hurting the brand as the G is aging and M is nearly dead. MKS is selling reasonably well despite a dip...MKX and MKZ seem solid each month.

Subaru is unstoppable

Venza had a great month, topping 4K units. Sales will likely be around 53K units for the year which isn't bad for a niche vehicle like this. Sienna and Rav4 were very strong despite being older products at this point. Hard to interpret the 2010 4Runner's success based on release date but a dip of 44% isn't good at all. Tundra and Tacoma are stable.

Scion is worthless/dead/dying

Who the F is buying Dodge Avengers and Journeys, and Chrysler Sebrings? Give me a break. Do they still produce the Aspen? Rough month for Chrysler/Fiat overall

Hyundai continues to impress though the Genesis is a flop. When you consider that the coupe is far cheaper than the sedan, it's logical to think a sales split of something like 1,000 coupes and 700 sedans would be probable. Those numbers are both very sobering for the Hyundai folks.
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By the way... A4 sales sucks too.
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Default Mazda Reports Sales Increase for November

IRVINE, Calif., Dec. 1 /PRNewswire/ -- Mazda North American Operations (MNAO) today reported November 2009 sales of 14,255 units, an increase of 9.6 percent versus November of 2008 on a DSR (daily selling rate) basis (23 selling days in November 2009 compared to 25 selling days last November), up 0.9 percent unadjusted.

Overall, total yearly sales are reported at 189,512, down 22.4 percent DSR (23.0 percent unadjusted) compared to 2008.

With November sales of 5,923 units (up 3.2 percent), the wildly popular, all-new 2010 MAZDA3 continues to lead the charge for the Mazda lineup and is nearing 90,000 units sold in 2009. The Mazda CX-7 crossover SUV reported an outstanding 103.2 percent sales increase compared to the same period last year with 2,209 units sold.

MX-5 Miata (up 34.8%), RX-8 (up 13.1%) and CX-9 (up 13.1%) all reported strong November sales, signaling that Mazda is gaining strength and momentum.

Mazda Motor de Mexico (MMdM) reported sales of 1,682, down 16.0 percent versus last year. Mazda Canada Inc. (MCI) sold 5,117 units, up 2.0 percent compared to last November.

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                Mazda North American Operations - November 2009
                 Month-To-Date                    Year-To-Date
                 -------------                    ------------
        November November   %    % MTD   November November  %     % YTD
           2009    2008   Change   DSR     2009    2008   Change    DSR
           ----    ----   ------   ---     ----    ----   ------   ----

Mazda3      5,923  5,742    3.2%   12.1%   88,485  102,09 (13.3)% (12.7)%
Mazda5      1,095  1,499  (27.0)% (20.6)%  16,866  19,137 (11.9)% (11.2)%
Mazda6      2,297  3,225  (28.8)% (22.6)%  32,270  49,502 (34.8)% (34.3)%
MX-5
 Miata        418    310   34.8%   46.6%    7,453  10,678 (30.2)% (29.7)%
RX-8          181    160   13.1%   23.0%    2,089   3,215 (35.0)% (34.6)%
CX-7        2,209  1,087  103.2%  120.9%   18,005  25,642 (29.8)% (29.3)%
CX-9        1,940  1,716   13.1%   22.9%   18,495  23,997 (22.9)% (22.4)%
Tribute       187    309  (39.5)% (34.2)%   5,278  10,454 (49.5)% (49.2)%
B-Series
 Truck          5     86  (94.2)% (93.7)%     571   1,266 (54.9)% (54.6)%

Total
 Vehicles
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CARS        9,914 10,936   (9.3)%  (1.5)% 147,163 184,625 (20.3)% (19.7)%
TRUCKS      4,341  3,198   35.7%   47.5%   42,349  61,359 (31.0)% (30.5)%
            -----  -----   -----   -----   ------  ------  ------  ------
TOTAL      14,255 14,134    0.9%    9.6%  189,512 245,984 (23.0)% (22.4)%
           ====== ======   =====   =====  ======= =======  ======  ======

MEMO:

IMPORT
 CAR        7,617  7,711   (1.2)%         114,893 135,123 (15.0)%
IMPORT
 TRUCK      4,149  2,803   48.0%           36,500  49,639 (26.5)%
            -----  -----   -----           ------  ------  ------
IMPORT
 TOTAL     11,766 10,514   11.9%          151,393 184,762 (18.1)%

DOMESTIC
 CAR        2,297  3,225  (28.8)%          32,270  49,502 (34.8)%
DOMESTIC
 TRUCK        192    395  (51.4)%           5,849  11,720 (50.1)%
            -----  -----   -----           ------  ------  ------
DOMESTIC
 TOTALS     2,489  3,620  (31.2)%          38,119  61,222 (37.7)%
            -----  -----   -----           ------  ------  ------
Selling
 Days          23     25                      282     284
SOURCE Mazda North American Operations
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Default Mitsubishi Motors Announces November Sales

CYPRESS, Calif., Dec. 1 /PRNewswire/ -- Mitsubishi Motors North America (MMNA) today announced November 2009 sales of 2,925. This is a decrease of 24.4% from last month's sales of 3,867 (October 2009). The November total includes the initial early sales of the new redesigned 2010 Outlander.

Mitsubishi Motors North America, Inc., (MMNA) is responsible for all manufacturing, finance, sales, and marketing operations for Mitsubishi Motors in the United States. MMNA sells coupes, convertibles, sedans, sport utility vehicles, and light trucks through a network of approximately 420 dealers. For more information, contact the Mitsubishi Motors News Bureau at (888) 560-6672 or visit media.mitsubishicars.com.


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Default Edmunds.com Reports True Cost of Incentives:

Incentives Rise for 2010 Model Year Vehicles

Posted on 12/01/09


Edmunds.com, the premier online resource for automotive information, estimated today that the average automotive manufacturer incentive in the U.S. was $2,713 per vehicle sold in November 2009, up $52, or 1.9 percent, from October 2009, and up $32, or 1.9 percent, from November 2008.

“Now that 2010 models are piling up on dealership lots, incentives on the new models are increasing, up 21 percent from last month,” stated Jessica Caldwell, Director of Industry Analysis for Edmunds.com.

According to Edmunds.com, combined incentives spending for domestic manufacturers averaged $3,712 per vehicle sold in November 2009, down from $3,844 in October 2009. From October 2009 to November 2009, European automakers increased incentives spending by $200 to $3,186 per vehicle sold; Japanese automakers increased incentives spending by $117 to $1,547 per vehicle sold; and Korean automakers decreased incentives spending by $38 to $1,946 per vehicle sold.


True Cost of Incentives for the Top Seven Automakers
Automaker November October November
2009 2009 2008

Chrysler Group (Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep) $ 3,298 $ 3,753 $ 3,514
Ford (Ford, Lincoln, Mercury, Volvo) $ 3,124 $ 3,052 $ 3,818
General Motors (Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, GMC, Hummer, Pontiac, Saab, Saturn)
$ 4,270 $ 4,398 $ 3,350
Honda (Acura, Honda) $ 1,195 $ 850 $ 1,115
Hyundai (Hyundai, Kia) $ 1,946 $ 1,984 $ 2,607
Nissan (Infiniti, Nissan) $ 2,011 $ 2,544 $ 2,248
Toyota (Lexus, Scion, Toyota) $ 1,704 $ 1,469 $ 2,005
Industry Average $ 2,713 $ 2,661 $ 2,681


In November 2009, the industry’s aggregate incentive spending is estimated to have totaled approximately $1.92 billion, down 13.6 percent from October 2009. Chrysler, Ford and General Motors spent an aggregate of $1.2 billion, or 62.4 percent of the total; Japanese manufacturers spent $421 million, or 21.8 percent; European manufacturers spent $219 million, or 11.4 percent; and Korean manufacturers spent $84 million, or 4.4 percent.

“Not surprisingly, GM is forced to spend handsomely on incentives - using taxpayer money - to wind down the Saturn and Pontiac brands and to keep Hummer and Saab afloat,” commented Edmunds’ AutoObserver.com Senior Editor Michelle Krebs.

Among vehicle segments, premium sport cars had the highest average incentives, $9,429 per vehicle sold, followed by large SUVs at $4,974. Subcompact cars had the lowest average incentives per vehicle sold, $1,090, followed by compact cars at $1,523. Analysis of incentives expenditures as a percentage of average sticker price for each segment shows large trucks averaged the highest, 13.9 percent, followed by large SUVs at 12.3 percent of sticker price. Premium luxury cars averaged the lowest with 5.3 percent and sport cars followed with 5.6 percent of sticker price.

Comparing all brands, in November Scion spent $375 followed by smart at $586 per vehicle sold. At the other end of the spectrum, HUMMER spent the most, $5,975, followed by Cadillac at $5,787 per vehicle sold. Relative to their vehicle prices, Pontiac and Saturn spent the most, 19.2 percent and 16.8 percent of sticker price, respectively; while Scion spent 2.2 and Subaru spent 2.6 percent.

“Increased leasing incentives accounted for significant TCI boosts for Honda and Toyota,” observed Caldwell.

Edmunds.com’s monthly True Cost of IncentivesSM (TCISM) report takes into account all automakers’ various U.S. incentives programs, including subvented interest rates and lease programs, as well as cash rebates to consumers and dealers. To ensure the greatest possible accuracy, Edmunds.com bases its calculations on sales volume, including the mix of vehicle makes and models for each month, as well as on the proportion of vehicles for which each type of incentive was used.
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Originally Posted by MPLexus301
A few notes...

The TL has really fallen off...now down with the "also rans" in the segment. Acura is dying faster than I thought they would, despite a spike in MDX and RDX sales.
Acura sales are up 20.8%
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^ TL has historically been their bread and butter and it is very quickly dropping off. TSX, RDX, and MDX are enjoying a slight bump from the refresh but that probably won't last very long. RL is going nowhere with no word of a replacement and ZDX is expected to be relatively low volume.
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NOVEMBER                       CYTD
2009
2008            
MTD VS
MTD PRIOR YR.            
2009            
2008
YTD VS
YTD PRIOR YR.

GRAND VITARA:             279                 464                 -40%             7,046                 11,537                 -39%
XL7:             115             1058             -89%             4,237             21,009             -80%
EQUATOR:             56             0             0%             2,167             0             0%
SX4:             1087             1262             -14%             19,581             28,366             -31%
FORENZA/RENO:             3             432             -99%             3,767             20,214             -81%
TOTAL:                 1,540                 3,216                 -52%                 36,810                 81,212                 -55

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Originally Posted by 06TLDude
Acura sales are up 20.8%
Everyones sales are up from last month. If you forgot, there was a huge drop off in sales last fall.

MP is right, Acura is in a sad tailspin. They have the cheapest products. They also have a $299 TSX lease deal now, no competition can touch that (or wants to). The RDX never hit sales goals. The TL was to sell 70k a year, it is now at a rate of 25k a year. The TL was the VOLUME car for the brand, it is barely selling over 2,000 units. The TSX never was to outsell the TL.

Buick and Caddy are on Acura's sales heels for the year with Caddy possibly passing them this month even as Caddy and Buick also bleed sales.

For the year Acura is down 28% for the year.
Infiniti down 26%
Lincoln down 26%
Lexus is down 20%
Mercedes down 17%
Volvo down 18%
Audi down 8%
Caddy is down 36%
Buick is down 30%
 
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The big news about November car sales is that Chrysler continues to lose market share at a remarkable and unsustainable rate.

Edmunds predicts that Chrysler sales will drop 35% from the same month last year, bring its piece of the U.S. market to 7.8%, down from 11.4% a year ago.

Chrysler’s new management insists the firm can survive for two years while it prepares Fiat models for the U.S. The boast gets harder to believe as each month passes. Chrysler is unlikely to have sold more than 55,000 vehicles last month.

The other important milestone in November may be that Nissan became the laggard among car companies in U.S. sales. Hyundai could move ahead of Nissan, as its total sales are expected to surge 26% to 43,000 units. Nissan sales are expected to be flat compared with last November, at about the same unit level as Hyundai.

Edmunds does not expect a significant change in sales for Ford (F), Toyota (TM), or GM compared to November 2008. Honda (HMC) sales are expected to drop 9%.

Edmunds expects total industry sales to be down 4% year-over-year and off 15% from October 2009
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Seperate threads coming on.

1. What is working for Subie?
2. Both VW/Subie has 193k sales
 
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I usually don't put this together so forgive me if its way off..I think its about right though...

Mainstream Family
Camry- 27,385
Accord-17,239
Altima-15,490
Fusion-13,774
Malibu-11,113
Sonata-8,178
Jetta-7,957
G6-5,852
Avenger-3,571
Sebring- 3,044
Mazda6-2,297
Optima-1,644

Small Family
Corolla-21,899
Civic-13,652
Focus- 10,196
Prius-9,607
Elantra-6,127
Mazda3-5,923
Sentra-5,210
Cobalt-5,112
Forte-4,044
Impreza- 2,555

Subcompacts
Versa-5,554
Accent-3,831
Fit-3,570
Yaris- 3,557
Rio-3,496
Soul-2,505
Aveo-2,212
Cube-1,565
xB-1,392
SX4-1087
xD-822

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Originally Posted by MPLexus301
A few notes...

The TL has really fallen off...now down with the "also rans" in the segment. Acura is dying faster than I thought they would, despite a spike in MDX and RDX sales.

Cadillac outsold Acura again last month and I expect that trend to continue. Buick is nipping on their heels and will probably pass them next month with LaCrosse sales ramping up.

Last month Lincoln was down 20% but outsold Infiniti by almost a thousand units...that is pretty substantial. The weak EX and FX are clearly hurting the brand as the G is aging and M is nearly dead. MKS is selling reasonably well despite a dip...MKX and MKZ seem solid each month.

Subaru is unstoppable

Venza had a great month, topping 4K units. Sales will likely be around 53K units for the year which isn't bad for a niche vehicle like this. Sienna and Rav4 were very strong despite being older products at this point. Hard to interpret the 2010 4Runner's success based on release date but a dip of 44% isn't good at all. Tundra and Tacoma are stable.

Scion is worthless/dead/dying

Who the F is buying Dodge Avengers and Journeys, and Chrysler Sebrings? Give me a break. Do they still produce the Aspen? Rough month for Chrysler/Fiat overall

Hyundai continues to impress though the Genesis is a flop. When you consider that the coupe is far cheaper than the sedan, it's logical to think a sales split of something like 1,000 coupes and 700 sedans would be probable. Those numbers are both very sobering for the Hyundai folks.

i highly doubt genesis coupe is selling more than genesis sedan. i go to every genesis coupe forum, but it's selling horrendously bad. and before coupe arrived sedan was selling at 1000-1150. no reason to think number would drastically go down to 700 per month IMO.
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
I usually don't put this together so forgive me if its way off..I think its about right though...

Mainstream Family
Camry- 27,385
Accord-17,239
Altima-15,490
Fusion-13,774
Malibu-11,113
Sonata-8,178
Jetta-7,957
G6-5,852
Avenger-3,571
Sebring- 3,044
Mazda6-2,297
Optima-1,644

Small Family
Corolla-21,899
Civic-13,652
Focus- 10,196
Prius-9,607
Elantra-6,127
Mazda3-5,923
Sentra-5,210
Cobalt-5,112
Forte-4,044
Impreza- 2,555

Subcompacts
Versa-5,554
Accent-3,831
Fit-3,570
Yaris- 3,557
Rio-3,496
Soul-2,505
Aveo-2,212
Cube-1,565
xB-1,392
SX4-1087
xD-822


wow, camry is kicking accord's **** big time! corolla on civic too!
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