View Poll Results: Which one
VW Golf TDI
16
44.44%
Prius
20
55.56%
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Diesel or Hybrid?
12-04-09 | 04:26 PM
#34
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From: The Woodlands, TX
standard warranty for the battery is 8 yrs/100,000 miles (in CA its 10 yrs/150K miles)
replacement battery cost is down to about $2500, but susposedly very few if any have been paid for...all have been under warranty.
replacement battery cost is down to about $2500, but susposedly very few if any have been paid for...all have been under warranty.
12-07-09 | 07:09 PM
#38
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I dunno about the performance of the new TDIs but the 2006 models clocked in 13 secs to 60mph so I'm not sure about performance. Diesel fans always claim torque as their trump card (and it is by a MILE) but a turbocharged gas engine can net almost as good amount of torque too. Plus, unless it's something like a BMW 335d, the diesel's gonna be slower because it's almost always a smaller engine with a turbo in it to save fuel.
1.5 litre Prius does 0-60 in 10.5 secs (some sources clock 11.0 secs)
2.0 litre Jetta TDI does 0-60 in 13.0 secs. That's the same as a 1.3 litre Civic Hybrid.
1.5 litre Prius does 0-60 in 10.5 secs (some sources clock 11.0 secs)
2.0 litre Jetta TDI does 0-60 in 13.0 secs. That's the same as a 1.3 litre Civic Hybrid.
12-07-09 | 07:44 PM
#39
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New Prius is tech marvel... same goes for RX450h... They are trully better powertrains for those (kinds of) vehicles for most people.
What they need to be able to do is fit it to more cars without losing space. We will see what happens with upcoming Auris Hybrid, which is direct Golf competitor.
What they need to be able to do is fit it to more cars without losing space. We will see what happens with upcoming Auris Hybrid, which is direct Golf competitor.
12-07-09 | 07:54 PM
#40
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From: MD
Some battery mods would be nice. Not cheap though.
12-08-09 | 09:23 AM
#41
Lexus Test Driver
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From: MA
There may be very few battery replacment, but guess what happens when the battery gets old, it doesnt hold a charge as long as use to. That will result in the car being in the charge mode more often, which will result in poorer gas mileage.
12-08-09 | 09:28 AM
#42
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From: The Woodlands, TX
Last edited by bagwell; 12-08-09 at 10:19 AM.
12-08-09 | 09:41 AM
#43
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p.s. Toyota's D4D diesel engines are piece of art too... especially after this years update. I mean 1.4 D4D 90hp, 2.0 D4d 126hp and 2.2l D4D 150hp.
12-08-09 | 11:33 PM
#44
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Most of the "failed" batteries are the 01-03 which used a different NiMH than the newer Priuses.
Remember that the battery is kept at 60% SOC as much as possible. It's a different charge cycle than your standard rechargeable batteries that get drained to near empty then fully recharged and drained again. That shortens the lifespan.
12-09-09 | 06:41 AM
#45
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And when's that? 15 years later? 100,000 miles later? 500,000 miles later?
Most of the "failed" batteries are the 01-03 which used a different NiMH than the newer Priuses.
Remember that the battery is kept at 60% SOC as much as possible. It's a different charge cycle than your standard rechargeable batteries that get drained to near empty then fully recharged and drained again. That shortens the lifespan.
Most of the "failed" batteries are the 01-03 which used a different NiMH than the newer Priuses.
Remember that the battery is kept at 60% SOC as much as possible. It's a different charge cycle than your standard rechargeable batteries that get drained to near empty then fully recharged and drained again. That shortens the lifespan.