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Old 12-09-09, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by IS-SV
Considering these are mainly large lux sedans, decent showing from both.
I keep forgetting I am in a Lexus forum, from where I am sitting, it looks like a *** whipping to me Not even close. Then again, they are comparing the LS with the ultimate driving machine. I am sure the LS top the 7 series in many areas, but performance is not one of them.
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I don't really see the need for a Sport LS 460.
Change the body style to appeal to a younger generation first.
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Originally Posted by IS-SV
Note: "Sport package's forged alloy wheels" are lighter than regular LS 18" wheels.
How do you know for sure they're lighter? Forged alloy wheels are stronger and usually lighter than comparable cast alloy wheels due to being able to use thinner spoke designs, but not usually lighter than cast alloy wheels of smaller sizes. But since Lexus does not publish the weights of the wheels, we can only speculate.
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Old 12-09-09, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Mister Two
How do you know for sure they're lighter? Forged alloy wheels are stronger and usually lighter than comparable cast alloy wheels due to being able to use thinner spoke designs, but not usually lighter than cast alloy wheels of smaller sizes. But since Lexus does not publish the weights of the wheels, we can only speculate.
Most of us know they are most likely lighter. I've seen the weights before for ISx50 F-Sport 19" forged wheels versus the OEM 18" alloys as published by Lexus dealers.

And btw, Lexus in some cases does publish wheel weights, see attached. Not always necessary to speculate. That's all I need to know for sure.
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Old 12-09-09, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by The G Man
I keep forgetting I am in a Lexus forum, from where I am sitting, it looks like a *** whipping to me Not even close. Then again, they are comparing the LS with the ultimate driving machine. I am sure the LS top the 7 series in many areas, but performance is not one of them.
Yes, if this was a sports car or pony car comparison, big *** whooping.

But at the country club down the street where this kind of car is abundant, the differences won't mean much. As usual the BMW will be the sportier one and the Lexus more luxury-oriented. No news to most of us.
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Originally Posted by Joeb427
I don't really see the need for a Sport LS 460.
Change the body style to appeal to a younger generation first.
that makes no sense. LS460 Sport is a lot sportier drive than normal LS460, and still retains all the LS qualities. What is there not to like?
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Originally Posted by IS-SV
Yes, if this was a sports car or pony car comparison, big *** whooping.
I thought they were comapring the new LS sport edition, not a soft riding highway cruiser
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Old 12-09-09, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
that makes no sense. LS460 Sport is a lot sportier drive than normal LS460, and still retains all the LS qualities. What is there not to like?
.The car's styling(very AARP) is too blah compared to the 750 bangle back and new design.
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did they test the 7 with the M sport package? As good as the LS sport probably is compared to the regular LS, it probably doesnt stack up to the regular 7, let alone one with the M sport package too
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Originally Posted by IS-SV
Most of us know they are most likely lighter. I've seen the weights before for ISx50 F-Sport 19" forged wheels versus the OEM 18" alloys as published by Lexus dealers.

And btw, Lexus in some cases does publish wheel weights, see attached. Not always necessary to speculate. That's all I need to know for sure.
Thanks. That does put an end to my speculation.
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Db @ 70 mph Cruise: 58.2
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Db @ 70 mph cruise: 66.7

is what Lexus is all about... add to it "Remarkable balance and feedback at the limit" comment, and what is there not to like? It is not an BMW style sports limo, but it has its own bragging rights as well as $14k smaller price tag.
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Old 12-09-09, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by The G Man
I thought they were comapring the new LS sport edition, not a soft riding highway cruiser
Yep, that's how us enthusiast types see it.
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Old 12-09-09, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by IS-SV
Yep, that's how us enthusiast types see it.
Wasnt there another test that said the LS sport perform better than the S-class? I guess that is an accomplishment by itself.
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Originally Posted by The G Man
Wasnt there another test that said the LS sport perform better than the S-class? I guess that is an accomplishment by itself.
Exactly, not a bad showing in this class of luxury first, sport second large sedans.
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Old 12-09-09, 12:44 PM
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LS nice show but please. This review shows that BMW is still the king in this area.
I guess the real question is did Lexus add the sport package for show or to be the king. Did they even compare the car to the 7 series.
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