Toyota FT-86 to get a stripped down (affordable) competition / track edition
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I sure hope FT-86 is competitor to cars that get more sales than Genesis Coupe.
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I have to admit I am blown away by the value , tuneability, and performance that the Hyundai Genesis provides. I think toyota will need to come to the market with a solid product ( as usual), but at a competitive price. I think the lack of a turbo option will turn tuners off.
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I have to admit I am blown away by the value , tuneability, and performance that the Hyundai Genesis provides. I think toyota will need to come to the market with a solid product ( as usual), but at a competitive price. I think the lack of a turbo option will turn tuners off.
In any case, I'd bet a turbo swap with an STi engine would be a walk in the park. No real tuner is going to walk away from this car. A genesis 2.0T would need 275hp to match the power/weight ratio of the FT-86 if it comes in at 1200kg and 220hp.
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Any good tuner knows, on a price/performance basis, that it is easier to add power efficiently than to loose weight elegantly.
In any case, I'd bet a turbo swap with an STi engine would be a walk in the park. No real tuner is going to walk away from this car. A genesis 2.0T would need 275hp to match the power/weight ratio of the FT-86 if it comes in at 1200kg and 220hp.
In any case, I'd bet a turbo swap with an STi engine would be a walk in the park. No real tuner is going to walk away from this car. A genesis 2.0T would need 275hp to match the power/weight ratio of the FT-86 if it comes in at 1200kg and 220hp.
1200 kg???? LMAO
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The genesis in 2.0 is 1500kg (3300lbs). As much as I like the Genesis, I can't say that they did a great job.
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more competition is great. 86 will outsell gen coupe easily. gen coupe is not selling because it's 3-4 grand too expensive. i tried to deal last summer, but man it's expensive. 29k OTD for 4 banger track!!!! hyundai has changed. lol
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This is a big part of the reason I never bought an MR-S. If Toyota doesn't at least offer a turbo option, then they'll be fighting the battle with 1 arm tied behind their back.
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Do you realize what a small % of the people interested in this car your statement will actually apply to? Who wants to buy a new car and then swap in a different motor that the car should have come with in the first place?
This is a big part of the reason I never bought an MR-S. If Toyota doesn't at least offer a turbo option, then they'll be fighting the battle with 1 arm tied behind their back.
This is a big part of the reason I never bought an MR-S. If Toyota doesn't at least offer a turbo option, then they'll be fighting the battle with 1 arm tied behind their back.
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Gen coupe is 3-400lbs overweight.
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I'm not saying that more power wouldn't be appreciated by enthusiasts, I'm saying that for the purpose of this car, much more is not necessary.
Swing and a miss to you. People who actually care (Enthusiasts) will not be afraid to mod, and honestly a lightweight, well balanced chassis with enough hp is just fine. The car needs to sell to survive. It needs to have a low price to sell in big numbers, because not many buyers buy this kind of vehicle as their primary car (and for those that do, it has to be reliable and economical). To do this, it will have to be (besides cheap);
a) light and adequately powered or
b) heavy and powerful.
Making it heavy makes it less economical and also defeats the purpose of this car (Cheap - to acquire, own & operate, lightweight, fun).
Is that so hard to get? Of course there are people who won't grasp this concept for whatever reason, but rest assured, they are not the ones Toyota are targeting. It will sell just fine I think, in droves probably, as long as they stay true to their goals.
Toyota will not build a mass market car that is not profitable, and to be profitable, it needs to be able to sell lots of em. This car as is, hits the market in a niche that has not existed for decades and is yearning for attention. They are right on the money.