burning oil in a new car?
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But aren't we talking about OP's oil usage of 1 quart in 6K miles on a brand new BMW?
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Since you asked in particular about the IS-F, neither my F or CL-S (105,000 mi) burns any noticeable oil between changes.
I will ask my cousin about his M3 next time I talk to him, but I don't recall him mentioning any oil being consumed.
I will ask my cousin about his M3 next time I talk to him, but I don't recall him mentioning any oil being consumed.
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What kind of suspension noises are you talking about? Thumping over bumps? Squeaks? Rattles? A rattling noise in motion or over bumps often means a strut/shock tower not bolted down enough (I've actually seen that on brand-new cars). Sometimes "suspension" noises actually originate in the steering rack, not the suspension itself (many older GM cars had that problem). And, especially wth stiffly-sprung vehicles like the M3 with low-profile tires, tire harshness over bumps can also sometimes be mistaken for suspension noise. Last, it is is normal for some cars to have suspension noises, such as with Hyundais and Kias (that's just thw way they work over bumps)....though I can't necesssarliy say that that's the case with an M3. The brand-new M3 I reviewed in the spring of 2008 did not, to my memory, have any significant suspension noises outside of some tire thump/harshness.
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some lil consumption is normal but I am not comfortable with the fact that its at the point where the light on the dash is coming on. My worked G35 with 120 K on it used to use oil at the same rate. I would check on a BMW forum to see what other BMW drivers are getting with their 7k mile intervals
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If your engine has 120K miles on it, try using the special high-mileage oil. If you use the same factory-recommend viscosity in an old engine as you do in a fairly new one, you are likely to get low oil pressure....and the dash light flickering on and off, especially at idle with the engine warm. That is because the worn piston rings, bearings, and valve-seals in an old engine allow some of the oil pressure to leak past the worn clearances (particularly when the engine is warm), lowering oil pressure and causing some of the oil to get used or burned up. The high-mileage oil has a higher (thicker) viscosity, a slower rate of flow, and different addititives than regular oil....this helps to lessen the rates of leaking/oil consumption, and to increase oil pressure.
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As I said before, we had situation in Europe with diesel engines - basically the engine was designed as such, and there was no malfunctioning there. Low friction engine designed for minimal fuel consumption together with low friction oil. We would take it apart, and engine that spends 3qt per 5000 miles would look like brand new inside even after 50,000 miles. Out of >250 people with similar powertrain, we had less than 10 people that complained about oil light turning blinking before their 10k service interval. It turned out to be an issue when someone drives hard, in lover gears, either on hwy or city. It was completly unacceptable, and Toyota spent a lot of money to fix the issue (some people had 3 engines replaced). 3rd revision is now not spending enough oil to turn on the oil lamp even for heaviest/sportiest/craziest of drivers for 10k miles. New engines coming out of factory are not spending any at all anymore.
So honestly, despite the experience that hurt the Toyota dealers, and the fact that it would be easier for me to say otherwise, i feel that unless you are racing your car on the track, there is no way you should be adding oil to your engine on regular basis and accepting this as normal. I call that lazy, bad, horrible design.
Just think of it in this way - would you purchase the vehicle where your car salesman tells you that you need to check your oil level and add more if needed, after every 1000 miles? I would not, even if it is Toyota/Lexus.
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To be honest, I can live with filling up a qt every 6k miles if this is within the manufacturing spec. I love my M, and I guess all the high performance cars have their fair share of problems. I really don't think AMGs are any better when it comes to reliability records.