Car Chat General discussion about Lexus, other auto manufacturers and automotive news.

Number of cars in the US dropped by 4 million in 2009. Is Americas love affair ending

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-04-10 | 11:37 PM
  #1  
I8ABMR's Avatar
I8ABMR
Thread Starter
Lexus Fanatic
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 22,608
Likes: 102
From: Waiting for next track day
Default Number of cars in the US dropped by 4 million in 2009. Is Americas love affair ending

2009 was not a good year for car sales. No surprises there. An interesting side effect of lowered sales last year, though, is that the total number of vehicles in the overall U.S. car fleet dropped. There were 250 million cars here in 2008, and only 246 million at the end of 2009. We may have been buying fewer cars than we usually do in a year – there were around 10 million sold in 2009 – but we still got rid of 14 million units.

Lester Brown, president of the Earth Policy Institute, will be speaking to reporters Wednesday about why he thinks these numbers mean that "America's century-old love affair with the automobile may be coming to an end." Part of Brown's reasoning is that he sees the shrinking U.S. fleet trend continuing through 2020 thanks to market saturation, economic uncertainty and a "declining interest in cars among young people who have grown up in cities," among other factors. The end result? Brown believes the shrinking fleet "will also largely eliminate the need for building new streets and highways, and will set the stage for increased investment in public transit and high-speed intercity rail." Is Brown on to something, or will a widely-expected rebound in new car sales due to pent-up demand render his argument spurious?

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/01/04/r...million-in-20/
Attached Thumbnails Number of cars in the US dropped by 4 million in 2009. Is Americas love affair ending-3808980537_fd15d95731_b.jpg  
Old 01-05-10 | 07:54 AM
  #2  
IS-SV's Avatar
IS-SV
Lexus Fanatic
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 14,100
Likes: 1
From: tech capital
Default

Yep, I went from 4 vehicles to 3 in 2009, did my part.
Old 01-05-10 | 08:20 AM
  #3  
4TehNguyen's Avatar
4TehNguyen
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 26,059
Likes: 51
From: Houston, Texas
Default

people need to save again, not buy new cars they cant afford
Old 01-05-10 | 08:26 AM
  #4  
mmarshall's Avatar
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 91,601
Likes: 89
From: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Default

One of the main factors contributing to the decline in 2009 is obvious.....I don't know why the article didn't mention it. By law (and the terms of the program), all of the vehicles traded in under the Cash-for-Clunkers program were sent to the crusher and recycled. They were not reconditioned by the dealership and put back out on the used-car retail market, like used cars often are (it was illegal to do so) . That, of course, took a lot of potential vehicles off the road.

Another, less-obvious factor is the fact that GM and Ford are making better vehicles these days that are less-likely to be prematurely scrapped or taken out of service with junked engines or transmissions.
Old 01-05-10 | 09:49 AM
  #5  
IS-SV's Avatar
IS-SV
Lexus Fanatic
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 14,100
Likes: 1
From: tech capital
Default

In 2009 the economy was the main factor in this trend.
Old 01-05-10 | 09:57 AM
  #6  
LIMS407's Avatar
LIMS407
Pole Position
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,246
Likes: 6
From: FL
Default

yes we are straight broke right now...
Old 01-05-10 | 10:35 AM
  #7  
spwolf's Avatar
spwolf
Lexus Champion
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 19,951
Likes: 171
Default

people probably did not register/insure their 2nd/3rd vehicle due to lack of funds... what are the prices for insurance/registration these days in the usa?
Old 01-05-10 | 03:14 PM
  #8  
mmarshall's Avatar
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 91,601
Likes: 89
From: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Default

Originally Posted by IS-SV
In 2009 the economy was the main factor in this trend.

Well, yes, of course....if you consider that the economy was the whole reason for the Cash-for-Clunkers program to start with. It was, more or less, the automotive equvalent of the Stimulus Package.
Old 01-05-10 | 03:27 PM
  #9  
I8ABMR's Avatar
I8ABMR
Thread Starter
Lexus Fanatic
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 22,608
Likes: 102
From: Waiting for next track day
Default

My parents are currently selling an old accord that they had just for weekends etc. They need to save and open up parking in the driveway. I will miss it though because its the only manual I have access to . I miss manuals
Old 01-05-10 | 03:56 PM
  #10  
IS-SV's Avatar
IS-SV
Lexus Fanatic
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 14,100
Likes: 1
From: tech capital
Default

Originally Posted by I8ABMR
My parents are currently selling an old accord that they had just for weekends etc. They need to save and open up parking in the driveway. I will miss it though because its the only manual I have access to . I miss manuals
I too miss having regular access to a manual tranny car. All my Porsches over the last 15 years have been manuals and used mostly as weekend cars.
Old 01-05-10 | 03:58 PM
  #11  
IS-SV's Avatar
IS-SV
Lexus Fanatic
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 14,100
Likes: 1
From: tech capital
Default

Originally Posted by mmarshall
Well, yes, of course....if you consider that the economy was the whole reason for the Cash-for-Clunkers program to start with. It was, more or less, the automotive equvalent of the Stimulus Package.
Yes, root cause was the economy because it's impact goes far beyond the impact of CFC alone, (of course CFC being part of the impact).
Old 01-05-10 | 05:33 PM
  #12  
mmarshall's Avatar
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 91,601
Likes: 89
From: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Default

Originally Posted by IS-SV
Yes, root cause was the economy because it's impact goes far beyond the impact of CFC alone, (of course CFC being part of the impact).
With Saturn, Pontiac, Chevy trucks, Hummer, and Saab all with numbered days (as of now), and with Mercury at reduced strength without the Grand Marquis and Sable, we're likely to see more drops in 2010.
Old 01-05-10 | 05:41 PM
  #13  
IS-SV's Avatar
IS-SV
Lexus Fanatic
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 14,100
Likes: 1
From: tech capital
Default

Originally Posted by mmarshall
With Saturn, Pontiac, Chevy trucks, Hummer, and Saab all with numbered days (as of now), and with Mercury at reduced strength without the Grand Marquis and Sable, we're likely to see more drops in 2010.
Certainly for all the examples (listed above), these vehicles were all in various forms of downward sales spirals well before the recession started. For the most part these examples were not highly regarded for several years, and good examples of why GM (and Mercury division) market share kept sliding.
Old 01-05-10 | 07:44 PM
  #14  
SLegacy99's Avatar
SLegacy99
Lead Lap
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,518
Likes: 0
From: MD
Default

Im attempting to get an apartment between work and school, this I could walk. I wouldn't get rid of my car of course, but I might only drive it two days a week instead of seven.
Old 01-05-10 | 07:52 PM
  #15  
Och's Avatar
Och
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 16,436
Likes: 14
From: NY
Default

No wonder its so freezing out!


Quick Reply: Number of cars in the US dropped by 4 million in 2009. Is Americas love affair ending



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:34 PM.