Cadillac CTS Tops Consumer Reports' Tests of 5 Luxury Sedans ......
01-06-10, 09:54 PM
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01-06-10, 10:02 PM
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You are certainly entitled to your opinion, lol.
1. We are talking about the 2010 E-class, not past E-classes.
2. The RL is a failure at 200 sales units per month, ready for EOL.
3. The biggest fans of the RL are people that never buy the car.
1. We are talking about the 2010 E-class, not past E-classes.
2. The RL is a failure at 200 sales units per month, ready for EOL.
3. The biggest fans of the RL are people that never buy the car.
01-07-10, 07:22 AM
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01-07-10, 08:03 AM
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01-07-10, 08:09 AM
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01-07-10, 08:52 AM
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No, it won't tell you how long necessarily the engine or transmission will last with normal use, but you can learn a LOT from a good overview and test-drive. Even back in the late 60's, when I was a teen-ager (I did my first formal review in 1970), I could tell that GM and Ford products, in general, had better sheet metal, better overall assembly quality, and used better interial materials than Chrysler or AMC products. Chrysler, though, was known for the durability of its six-cylinders, small V8s, and the Torqueflite automatic transmission.....something that, as you note, can only be proved with the test of time.
I personally like to comment on the qualities my cars after owning them for some time. It just seems more logical (and fair) to me to do it in this fashion.
For example, tomorrow I am returning the E230 to my firm with close to 60,000 km and picking up my new BMW 118d, a private purchase. Actually, it's a Vorfuhrwagen (demo car) which I bought from a BMW dealer for an acceptable price. The E230 was a great car. Never missed a beat, always comfortable and refined (it's a V6). My wife and I basically explored Europe in the car (it's also a great long-distance cruiser I should add). I guess now I can comment on the build quality of the car - which to me was excellent. The machine felt well-build and solid, which was especially apparent at high speeds on the autobahn. I suspect the new E class improves upon this great build quality of the predecessor as many reviews have stated.
Well, tomorrow is the big day. I'm going to be a BMW owner, my first one. Originally I intended to get a Citroen C5, but I'll explain tomorrow as to why I ended up with a BMW 1 series sedan.
01-07-10, 09:19 AM
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If you have driven a Citroen C5 (or intend to shortly) share your opinions with us on the car (you can start a new thread if needed). Most of us here in America get very few good reviews of French-designed vehicles.
01-07-10, 09:21 AM
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We have many owners of various brands of cars that have extensive hands-on experience and knowledge. All of us take test drives, but not one of us can own every significant car on the market. But we do want to hear from the owners of our favorite cars for their real life experiences with the cars.Off the top of my head I know we have several CL posters with ownership experiences reporting on most of the Lexus models, many BMW, Subie, Mercedes, Porsche, Toyota, VW, Honda models too.
Look forward to your feedback on the BMW 1 series too.
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Here's the thread: https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...5-2-2-hdi.html
I would have gone for the C5 but I'll explain all that tomorrow (or Saturday). Another vehicle I was eying was the Skoda Superb. The Superb is a kind of European "Toyota Avalon / Hyundai Azera" - a mainstream car with premium aspirations.
Thanks. I'm very excited.
I testdrove a BMW 118i in mid-2009 and loved it. It's a sporty vehicle but I also found it relatively comfortable and solid in feel. Despite being classified as a small car, it's quite roomy on the inside, too. I'll talk more about it tomorrow (or Saturday).
01-08-10, 09:12 AM
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Good write-up. That is a beautiful car....looks a lot like a Jaguar XF on the outside. Interior is not quite as plush as a Jag but still nice. I'm glad to see that the French, based on your observance here, have not (yet) given up on soft suspensions and cushy seats....two long-standing French traditions. French auto buyers demand seating and ride comfort.....they won't put up with too much firmness, and generally don't care as much about handling as the Germans and Swedes do.
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