Lexus to Install Brake OverRide Across Lineup (Additional cars added)
01-13-10, 04:17 PM
#46
Interesting, because the IS-F is (arguably) the fastest-accelerating production Lexus model, and, with a runaway engine, would likely be the most dangerous one, and the hardest to stop without the overide system.
The IS-F I reviewed in spring of 2008, IMO, wasn't really that powerful at low RPMs, but, as the tach climbed between 3600 and 4000 with a heavy right foot, took off like a rocket. Mike (1SICKLEX) had a similiar experience with the one he reviewed.
The IS-F I reviewed in spring of 2008, IMO, wasn't really that powerful at low RPMs, but, as the tach climbed between 3600 and 4000 with a heavy right foot, took off like a rocket. Mike (1SICKLEX) had a similiar experience with the one he reviewed.
might as well put a speed limiter on the car for 70mph
01-13-10, 04:28 PM
#47
Lexus Fanatic
might as well put a speed limiter on the car for 70mph
01-15-10, 03:21 PM
#51
Lexus Fanatic
I didn't see anything new directly from Toyota or Lexus in the last few days, but here's a good website on the subject:
http://www.blogcatalog.com/blog/toyota-recall
And here's the factory website on the matter:
http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/t...ry-102572.aspx
http://www.blogcatalog.com/blog/toyota-recall
And here's the factory website on the matter:
http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/t...ry-102572.aspx
01-15-10, 03:29 PM
#52
Lexus Fanatic
^^^ Thanks for the info/releases above.
Sounds like the same old stuff with one exception regarding the Brake Override feature:
"The brake override system will be made standard equipment throughout the Toyota and Lexus product lines starting with January 2010 production of ES350 and Camry and is scheduled to be incorporated into new production of most models by the end of 2010."
Sounds like the same old stuff with one exception regarding the Brake Override feature:
"The brake override system will be made standard equipment throughout the Toyota and Lexus product lines starting with January 2010 production of ES350 and Camry and is scheduled to be incorporated into new production of most models by the end of 2010."
01-16-10, 02:38 AM
#53
Yes, it's retarded, if you look at it as a device that will RETARD only unintended acceleration. The idea is not to prevent speed or acceleration in normal driving, but simply during a defective condition or emergency where the engine will not respond to brakes or to backing off on the throttle.
Why do you say that? Like I just said, the device has nothing to do with normal driving, and activates only in an emergency. Otherwise, it doesn't care how fast......or slow.....you go.
Why do you say that? Like I just said, the device has nothing to do with normal driving, and activates only in an emergency. Otherwise, it doesn't care how fast......or slow.....you go.
When gas pedal gets stuck, car does not know nor can it know if it is stuck on something or you are pressing the pedal yourself.
so what they will install is ecu that monitors gas and brake pedal input, and when both are pressed (probably longer than certain amount of time), ecu will cancel gas pedal input.
01-19-10, 08:30 AM
#54
Lexus Test Driver
It sounds like Toyota's algorithm is one step above the German's. Toyota's version will actually monitor speed when the brakes are applied, if the brake doesn’t slow the car down, it will then cut throttle. This will eliminate the failure of the throttle sensor.
01-19-10, 08:40 AM
#56
Lexus Test Driver
01-19-10, 05:05 PM
#58
executive matchup
Look at the silly double-grip throttle-handle-bars on power-lawn mowers, for instance.....the moment you release them, the engine quits, and you have to restart it, often with a pull-rope. I got to the point where, when I used one, I tied the two bars together so I could release it and not have to continually restart.
now the next "mod" would be to undo the brake override, to bring it back to what it should be to begin with!
+1, agree with you there.
can't speak on behalf of 1sick, but for me i want the ability to brake torque when and if i choose to do so. if i want to drag race (ie launch) someone at the light, it's has to be my decision (and responsibility) and no one else.
Last edited by Stormforge; 01-19-10 at 05:11 PM.
01-20-10, 05:48 AM
#60
Lexus Test Driver
Like I said, if you want to launch your vehicle in a public street, then you probably dont want the safety re-programming. Then again, if you like to drag race in the streer, then you probably dont care much about your safety ot the public's safety anyways.