Toyota freezes all sales of 8 models, leaving all dealerships dead in the water
01-27-10, 06:29 AM
#61
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Man you remind me of the Mitsubishi scandal to cover up their mess
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubi...efect_cover-up
In what was referred to as "one of the largest corporate scandals in Japanese history",[22][23] Mitsubishi was twice forced to admit to systematically covering up defect problems in its vehicles. Four defects were first publicized in 2000, but in 2004 it confessed to 26 more going back as far as 1977, including failing brakes, fuel leaks and malfunctioning clutches. The effect on the company was catastrophic, forcing it to recall 163,707 cars (156,433 in Japan and 7,274 overseas) for free repair.[24] Further recalls by Fuso truck & bus brought the total number of vehicles requiring repair to almost one million. The affair led to the resignation and subsequent arrest of president Kawasoe, along with 23 other employees who were also implicated.[25] Three of them have since been acquitted, with the judge stating that there was no official request from the Transport Ministry ordering them to submit a defect report.
Scary stuff.
With that said, it may be fine to issue recalls now matter how big or small but if blood has to be shed, then it's an entirely scary story altogether
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubi...efect_cover-up
In what was referred to as "one of the largest corporate scandals in Japanese history",[22][23] Mitsubishi was twice forced to admit to systematically covering up defect problems in its vehicles. Four defects were first publicized in 2000, but in 2004 it confessed to 26 more going back as far as 1977, including failing brakes, fuel leaks and malfunctioning clutches. The effect on the company was catastrophic, forcing it to recall 163,707 cars (156,433 in Japan and 7,274 overseas) for free repair.[24] Further recalls by Fuso truck & bus brought the total number of vehicles requiring repair to almost one million. The affair led to the resignation and subsequent arrest of president Kawasoe, along with 23 other employees who were also implicated.[25] Three of them have since been acquitted, with the judge stating that there was no official request from the Transport Ministry ordering them to submit a defect report.
Scary stuff.
With that said, it may be fine to issue recalls now matter how big or small but if blood has to be shed, then it's an entirely scary story altogether
Again, I understand the thinking, in no way do I agree with it
01-27-10, 06:29 AM
#62
I agree with this post on another forum.
"The largest part of the problem is with the US and Canadian content - everything from the poor paint thickness, rusted truck frame issues, the defective gas pedals, electronic throttle software controls, and the defective rubber oil supply hoses. The other issue is worker morale has been steadily declining as volumes and new plants open."
"The largest part of the problem is with the US and Canadian content - everything from the poor paint thickness, rusted truck frame issues, the defective gas pedals, electronic throttle software controls, and the defective rubber oil supply hoses. The other issue is worker morale has been steadily declining as volumes and new plants open."
01-27-10, 06:30 AM
#63
Lexus Champion
Okay, does anyone have any additional information on the accelerator pedal issue? I ask because of this article...and it mentions the 2002 - 2004+ Lexus ES 300's & 330's now...
http://www.sandiego6.com/mostpopular...uxTtxrK4Q.cspx
This whole family was killed...and he was a CHP officer.
I'm starting to get a little confused if the problem lies with the floor mat or the accelerator pedal...or both...? My gut is telling me that this recall isn't quite over yet...
Mods, this was posted twice on purpose for obvious reasons.
http://www.sandiego6.com/mostpopular...uxTtxrK4Q.cspx
This whole family was killed...and he was a CHP officer.
I'm starting to get a little confused if the problem lies with the floor mat or the accelerator pedal...or both...? My gut is telling me that this recall isn't quite over yet...
Mods, this was posted twice on purpose for obvious reasons.
01-27-10, 06:31 AM
#64
Lexus Test Driver
I agree and this fiasco will bring Toyota back to reality.
Audi got through this and I'm sure Toyota will.
The last two CEO's killed Toyota quality with bad decision making.
The new guy in charge,Mr Toyoda will change things and bring Toyota back to quality of the past or close..
Audi got through this and I'm sure Toyota will.
The last two CEO's killed Toyota quality with bad decision making.
The new guy in charge,Mr Toyoda will change things and bring Toyota back to quality of the past or close..
01-27-10, 06:33 AM
#66
01-27-10, 06:33 AM
#67
I remember the old joke...
How would you like to be slowing down to pay a toll and there's a Pinto(explodes on rear impact problem)in front of you and Audi behind you?
Last edited by Joeb427; 01-27-10 at 06:38 AM.
01-27-10, 06:52 AM
#74
Lexus Test Driver
Yes Toyota sells more cars, but its all proportional. Toyota is in a free fall state right now and they are trying to stabilzer the situsation by this stop sale and production order. Next will be recovery mode. Personally, I think Toyota will recover faster than Audi becuase its constomer based is very loyal, but if Toyota as a company do not start to concentrate on quality instead of quantity, it will be just a matter of time before another incident like this one will come up.
01-27-10, 06:56 AM
#75
Yes Toyota sells more cars, but its all proportional. Toyota is in a free fall state right now and they are trying to stabilzer the situsation by this stop sale and production order. Next will be recovery mode. Personally, I think Toyota will recover faster than Audi becuase its constomer based is very loyal, but if Toyota as a company do not start to concentrate on quality instead of quantity, it will be just a matter of time before another incident like this one will come up.
When those models come back up for sale there will be very good incentives too.
They must go back to quality because no matter who the company is and how loyal their base is,they will turn off those people (even fanboy me
)with problem after problem.