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Not only downshift but the main advantage of having closely spaced gears will give you FASTER ACCELERATION.![Stick Out Tongue](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
And that is what I and some other spirited car enthusiasts are after. So fuel economy isn't the only thing that is benefited. Faster acceleration, better deceleration, and better fuel economy.![Thumb Up](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
No, the E92 M3 is not faster than the IS-F in straight line accelerations. IS-F is a bit faster. For the M3 you kinda gotta give it a bit of time to pickup rpm to get the power you need whereas the IS-F picks up power immediately after each shift due to more tq and closer gears. Close gears are extremely important for fast accelerations. If the IS-F had 6 speed taller gears it will go slower, and will be considerably slower than the JB3 chipped 335i from roll race. Basically, the short gears are saving IS-F's a$$.. gotta thank the wonderful gearing.
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No, the E92 M3 is not faster than the IS-F in straight line accelerations. IS-F is a bit faster. For the M3 you kinda gotta give it a bit of time to pickup rpm to get the power you need whereas the IS-F picks up power immediately after each shift due to more tq and closer gears. Close gears are extremely important for fast accelerations. If the IS-F had 6 speed taller gears it will go slower, and will be considerably slower than the JB3 chipped 335i from roll race. Basically, the short gears are saving IS-F's a$$.. gotta thank the wonderful gearing.
in the m3 if i shift right at the redline to the next gear, it will right be around 4rpm and the power is fully there to continue to pull, i don't feel the need to "wait" for the power to come back up. of course if i shift early and keep the rpm around 2k then it's another story. but that's about how the car is designed and driven. i don't doubt the c63 and isf are "easier" car to drive in normal condition, but given how the m cars have been designed traditionally, more gears might help on the m with that high rev redline.
with that said, if they go with tt v8 for the next m5, the characteristic will be a lot different (more low end tq and probably not as high rev). in that case then gearing might play a different role
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I have driven the M6 and although its fast it doesnt feel like it has 500hp because of the insane weight. It was a thrill to drive and it made an awesome noise but it just didnt blow me away. I expected brutal acceleration
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Have you driven the 2010 550i GT hatchback/wagon, with its twin-turbo V8, 450 ft-lbs. of torque, and 8-speed automatic? (see my recent review, in early December) Yes, it also is heavy, but, even so, trust me......it will DEFINITELY get out of its own way
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It's doubtful, though, whether this car will be as fast as the new M5.
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Have you driven the 2010 550i GT hatchback/wagon, with its twin-turbo V8, 450 ft-lbs. of torque, and 8-speed automatic? (see my recent review, in early December) Yes, it also is heavy, but, even so, trust me......it will DEFINITELY get out of its own way ![Wink](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
It's doubtful, though, whether this car will be as fast as the new M5.
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It's doubtful, though, whether this car will be as fast as the new M5.
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As promised, here is a vid of the upcoming M5 on the Ring. At 3:38, there is some rocking going on the incline. Manual tranny perhaps?![Big Grin](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4vFD...layer_embedded
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Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4vFD...layer_embedded
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