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Rendered: Turbocharged 2012 BMW M5
If money were no object, I would order it right now, without even driving it... most stunning sedan IMO I've ever seen 
http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...12-bmw-m5.html
http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...12-bmw-m5.html
So now that the 2011 BMW 5 Series is out in the open, it's time to move on to the really good stuff. We're referring to the next BMW M5, of course, you know the one we spotted on the Nurburgring late last year?
Now that we know the final shape of the standard model it's not too hard to fill out the details on the Motorsport-tuned M5. Unlike the M3, the M5 is always a bit more subtle. A deeper front air dam, extended side skirting and four pipes out back are the obvious cues along with lightweight wheels and a quarter-panel badging.
The big inlets up front are needed to feed the twin-turbo power plant that will reside under the hood. We received confirmation on that one from a BMW executive last year, so the only real question at this point is the final output. The 4.8-liter V8 will be the same motor used in the current X5/X6M models, so the M5 is guaranteed at least 555 horsepower. And the chances of BMW leaving it at that are slim, so something more in the range of 570-590 horses is a good bet.
Various rumors have also indicated that BMW is considering some type of electric assist for this M5 e.g. a production KERS system of sorts. That may have changed in the last year or so now that BMW is no longer participating in Formula 1. We asked our sources inside BMW anyway and they didn't have much to say. So either it's not going to happen or it hasn't been fully approved at this point.
One thing that is for certain is the use of BMW's M Double Clutch Transmission (DCT) in place of the current SMG setup. It could gain a gear over the M3's seven-speed setup, but either way it will be a huge upgrade over the single-clutch SMG.
Given that the standard 2011 BMW 5 Series is scheduled for its debut at the 2010 Geneva Auto Show, don't expect to see the 2012 M5 until either late this year or early in 2011
Now that we know the final shape of the standard model it's not too hard to fill out the details on the Motorsport-tuned M5. Unlike the M3, the M5 is always a bit more subtle. A deeper front air dam, extended side skirting and four pipes out back are the obvious cues along with lightweight wheels and a quarter-panel badging.
The big inlets up front are needed to feed the twin-turbo power plant that will reside under the hood. We received confirmation on that one from a BMW executive last year, so the only real question at this point is the final output. The 4.8-liter V8 will be the same motor used in the current X5/X6M models, so the M5 is guaranteed at least 555 horsepower. And the chances of BMW leaving it at that are slim, so something more in the range of 570-590 horses is a good bet.
Various rumors have also indicated that BMW is considering some type of electric assist for this M5 e.g. a production KERS system of sorts. That may have changed in the last year or so now that BMW is no longer participating in Formula 1. We asked our sources inside BMW anyway and they didn't have much to say. So either it's not going to happen or it hasn't been fully approved at this point.
One thing that is for certain is the use of BMW's M Double Clutch Transmission (DCT) in place of the current SMG setup. It could gain a gear over the M3's seven-speed setup, but either way it will be a huge upgrade over the single-clutch SMG.
Given that the standard 2011 BMW 5 Series is scheduled for its debut at the 2010 Geneva Auto Show, don't expect to see the 2012 M5 until either late this year or early in 2011
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The CAFE standards don't care how much money is in your pocket, or what kind of car you can afford....that's a moot point to them. What matters is what kind of gas mileage a company's fleet will average, according to the EPA tests..
02-02-10, 09:26 AM
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And gotta wait for the knee to heal and if we relocate south before the search continues...
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Now, if they could just work out those electrical issues...
02-02-10, 09:40 AM
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Your post is unclear. Are you refering to the Buick LaCrosse AWD or the Lexus GS AWD ?
The new LaCrosse is a nice car, but it doesn't have the kind of HP/torque you are talking about. As far as the CTS-V power level is concerned, several Mercedes AMG models will equal or exceed it.
02-02-10, 10:08 AM
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If you're talking high speed accelerations (0-160 or roll-170 or top speed) then 8 speed is definitely needed. Higher number of gears generally mean gear spacing will be closer together. With automatic transmission shifting this many of gears is actually suitable. Automatic is a good candidate. And of course the 8th gear for fuel economy. Lexus IS-F is the same way, which is why it runs so damn good from roll to top speed (170 mph) and keep up with the tall geared 500+hp cars. These manufacturers know what they are doing when designing / engineering high performance vehicles. I think BMW is trying to take back the crown from the Mercedes C63 AMG cause it's currently a tad faster than the M5. Lexus IS-F needs some hp and tq boost in order to keep up.. or go through some serious weight reduction.
c63 is on 7 speed, m3 is on 7 speed dct or 6 speed mt, i don't see those cars be any slower than the isf 8 speed. for example in my m3 as long as i am in the power band (above 4000rpm) the car will accelerate hard any day.
but i agree it's definitely more of a design and gearing and computer controls. but overall the gain of the 8 speed, at least to me, is more about the gas mileage
you should have gone with the m3 to begin with!
02-02-10, 10:12 AM
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Your post is unclear. Are you refering to the Buick LaCrosse AWD or the Lexus GS AWD ?
The new LaCrosse is a nice car, but it doesn't have the kind of HP/torque you are talking about. As far as the CTS-V power level is concerned, several Mercedes AMG models will equal or exceed it.
The new LaCrosse is a nice car, but it doesn't have the kind of HP/torque you are talking about. As far as the CTS-V power level is concerned, several Mercedes AMG models will equal or exceed it.
I do have product literature @ home of the Caddy CTS-V & will be awaiting more info on the others..
