Discontinued Infiniti Q45 maybe Q50? (no replacement coming)
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The M will be the true flagship since Infiniti is going to get a new FWD model to slot between the G and the M that compete with the TL and ES. The new M is huge and only a few inches short of the SWB LS, so I don't see why so many of you are saying the Q needs to come back. The M also cost nearly as much as an entry level LS.
As I see it the G is the entry level the future FWD car will be the mid level, and the M is the flagship.
As I see it the G is the entry level the future FWD car will be the mid level, and the M is the flagship.
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The M will be the true flagship since Infiniti is going to get a new FWD model to slot between the G and the M that compete with the TL and ES. The new M is huge and only a few inches short of the SWB LS, so I don't see why so many of you are saying the Q needs to come back. The M also cost nearly as much as an entry level LS.
As I see it the G is the entry level the future FWD car will be the mid level, and the M is the flagship.
As I see it the G is the entry level the future FWD car will be the mid level, and the M is the flagship.
The M37/56 is in the 5/GS/E class segment which Infiniti has stated themselves. They are not confused with where it is positioned so we should not be.
The RL and M are "their" flagships but clearly not true D class Flagships.
Apples to Oranges.
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Sorry but a FM based car is not a D class flagship. It performs well in its class it does have the image/panache/luxury/size/options/features of the LS/S/7 etc class.
The M37/56 is in the 5/GS/E class segment which Infiniti has stated themselves. They are not confused with where it is positioned so we should not be.
The RL and M are "their" flagships but clearly not true D class Flagships.
Apples to Oranges.
The M37/56 is in the 5/GS/E class segment which Infiniti has stated themselves. They are not confused with where it is positioned so we should not be.
The RL and M are "their" flagships but clearly not true D class Flagships.
Apples to Oranges.
Anyway for a near luxury brand like Infiniti the flagship model usually competes with true luxury brands midlevel model. Perfect example being Saab and Volvo.
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Infiniti is not the only manufacturer to make this error. Cadillac, Lincoln, and Buick have all either dropped or are in the process of dropping their largest, heaviest models. The Town Car is virtually gone, and the DTS and Buick Lucerne will likely soon be gone, too. IMO, that is a mistake.
And.....I'm sure that Mike (1SICKLEX) will agree with me on this one .........the Acura RL, while otherwise a superb car, is also a little too small to be a true flagship.
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Yes I'm not saying the M is in the same segment as true flagships but the M itself is worthy to be Infiniti's flagship if that makes any sense That's not something that can be said of the RL though lol.
Anyway for a near luxury brand like Infiniti the flagship model usually competes with true luxury brands midlevel model. Perfect example being Saab and Volvo.
Anyway for a near luxury brand like Infiniti the flagship model usually competes with true luxury brands midlevel model. Perfect example being Saab and Volvo.
yup among other things
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Infiniti dealers across the country have been desperately waiting for a new Q flagship sedan to take on the likes of the Lexus LS and BMW 7-Series to be announced, however, it appears their wish may never come true.
The last Q model ended production back in 2006 and at the time the base sticker price of the car was $58,750. The current range topper in Infinti’s lineup is the latest 2011 M56, which starts at $57,550, so there’s definitely room for a more upmarket model. However, Infiniti’s vice president of its global business unit, Toru Saito, explained to Automotive News that the Q45 never sold well in the U.S. and that a more expensive model will be even harder to sell. There’s also the fact that the latest 2011 Infiniti M is almost the same size as the old Q45.
All is not lost, however. Saito went on to explain that the new M will "play a flagship role" to gauge demand for an even more expensive model by seeing how many people buy the most expensive M with all the options boxes ticked.
However, the top priority now for Infiniti is to generate more global appeal. Infiniti is no longer a brand isolated to the U.S. and is currently sold in Korea, China, Russia and most of Western Europe. Another major focus is environmental and efficiency challenges, which the upmarket Nissan division hopes to address with a new all-electric compact car.
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Infiniti’s vice president of its global business unit, Toru Saito, explained to Automotive News that the Q45 never sold well in the U.S. and that a more expensive model will be even harder to sell.
Infiniti dealers across the country have been desperately waiting for a new Q flagship sedan to take on the likes of the Lexus LS and BMW 7-Series
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Infiniti needs a REAL flagship car for their fleet! The M is not it, its weird for a lux brand to not have one then expecting to be taken seriously. You think they would want to compete in every class with the competion (BMW, Lexus, MB & Audi) instead of throwing in the towel, make a flagship people want to buy.
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Here is the actual article...
http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dl...3/303159948/-1
As for you Infiniti dealers who are eager for a flagship sedan to replace the Q45, which was pulled from the lineup in 2006 -- well, don't hold your breath.
Nissan officials have made noises about a new full-sized flagship to compete against the Lexus LS 460, BMW 7 series and Mercedes-Benz S class. Toru Saito, vice president of the global Infiniti business unit, said several regional markets have requested a return of the big sedan. But he points out that the Q45 never sold well in the United States, which is its most natural market.
What's more, the redesigned M sedan, arriving this month, approaches the old Q45 in size.
The M will "play a flagship role" to test how strong the brand is, Saito said at the Geneva auto show this month. Should there be demand for a fully loaded M sedan, then maybe a new Q would be developed.
"I would like an iconic product," Saito said, "but the No. 1 challenge is the environment and efficiency."
http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dl...3/303159948/-1
As for you Infiniti dealers who are eager for a flagship sedan to replace the Q45, which was pulled from the lineup in 2006 -- well, don't hold your breath.
Nissan officials have made noises about a new full-sized flagship to compete against the Lexus LS 460, BMW 7 series and Mercedes-Benz S class. Toru Saito, vice president of the global Infiniti business unit, said several regional markets have requested a return of the big sedan. But he points out that the Q45 never sold well in the United States, which is its most natural market.
What's more, the redesigned M sedan, arriving this month, approaches the old Q45 in size.
The M will "play a flagship role" to test how strong the brand is, Saito said at the Geneva auto show this month. Should there be demand for a fully loaded M sedan, then maybe a new Q would be developed.
"I would like an iconic product," Saito said, "but the No. 1 challenge is the environment and efficiency."
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Each manufacture should just work on key aspects of what they are good at, we don't need everything from everyone.
The Q45 where nice cars but, not even close to the Germans or Lexus in terms of status, and this is a segment where the buyer wants the car to be noticed for what it is, and how much it cost
The Q45 where nice cars but, not even close to the Germans or Lexus in terms of status, and this is a segment where the buyer wants the car to be noticed for what it is, and how much it cost
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