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Old 03-03-10, 07:20 AM
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porsche sold almost as many panameras as lexus sold GS.
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Old 03-03-10, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
spin it any way you want, they got stomped while the competition rose big time.



another nice cherry pick for your endless trashing of hyundai/kia.

the aged and plain Sedona sales were weak possibly because the sorrento sales MORE THAN DOUBLED.


If the new Sienna and upcoming revised Odyssey are successful, I'm sure H/K will roll out an updated mini-van.
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Originally Posted by LexBob2
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If the new Sienna and upcoming revised Odyssey are successful, I'm sure H/K will roll out an updated mini-van.
IF they are successful? You have the gift of understatement. Of course they'll be successful.
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Wow, thats the first time I've seen the G sedan outsell the ES. Can't just be the lease deals since the ES has similar rates. The HS and IS are probably stealing sales. RX sales are crazy though 5694. The RX/ES/IS do have really good lease deals right now though

ES - 2349
G sedan - 2686
G sedan/coupe/convertible - 3956

IS sedan/convertible - 1991
HS - 712

For comparison,

TL - 2410

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Originally Posted by speedflex
IF they are successful? You have the gift of understatement. Of course they'll be successful.
After seeing the Sienna and an an Odyssey prototype at the Auto Show I agree with you.
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Interesting to see HS sales decline...I would imagine this is related to the brake software recall. Even then, I have been talking to a few insiders and dealers and evidently the car is not selling very well.

Perhaps sales will spike if/when gas prices rise.
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Old 03-03-10, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by GFerg
I dont even think that is debatable. Has the Sonata been on sale for a full month yet right?
Even so the Sonata doesn't seem to have the high sales goal of the CAmry. Hyundai will be happy to meet their goal



Originally Posted by Hypnotik
Wow, thats the first time I've seen the G sedan outsell the ES. Can't just be the lease deals since the ES has similar rates. The HS and IS are probably stealing sales. RX sales are crazy though 5694. The RX/ES/IS do have really good lease deals right now though

ES - 2349
G sedan - 2686
G sedan/coupe/convertible - 3956

IS sedan/convertible - 1991
HS - 712

For comparison,

TL - 2410
What? 1 month does not make a trend in regards to the ES. Not to mention the G37 is a damn good car. Not to mention the recall mess. Not to mention the G37 always outsold the IS as its sales goal is always higher.

Wow one month to gloat in 20 years.

Oh and you may want to see below...

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IF they are successful? You have the gift of understatement. Of course they'll be successful.
Both will be very well received.

Originally Posted by MPLexus301
Interesting to see HS sales decline...I would imagine this is related to the brake software recall. Even then, I have been talking to a few insiders and dealers and evidently the car is not selling very well.

Perhaps sales will spike if/when gas prices rise.
The HS main merit for sale is MPG and gas has risen but it looks like not to levels that will make the HS more of an option for buyers. Outside MPG it doesn't look as good as most anything else, performance is adequate and it is PRICEY. The car starts at 35k to 45k. That is IS 350/IS 350 money. It is NOT a cheap car!

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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX


What? 1 month does not make a trend in regards to the ES. Not to mention the G37 is a damn good car. Not to mention the recall mess. Not to mention the G37 always outsold the IS as its sales goal is always higher.

Wow one month to gloat in 20 years.

And of course, the one to reply to my post is you. Who else would get heated from my post. Did I say it was a trend? NO Was i surprised that it's the first time it happened? YES Read the post for what it is

Oh and the recall shouldnt affect lexus sales. Not many people know the ES and RX are made from the camry

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Default Mid-Size Luxury Trend

Here's the sales trends for the Mid-sized luxury competitors with the Genesis tossed in as always.

Code:
      Genesis   MKS      M     GS     A6    S80    STS     RL  E-Class 5-Series
Feb 10  1,762  1,751    817    488    507    662    332    131   4,043   2,270
Jan 10  1,670  1,280    872    529    507    532    233    110   3,824   2,469
Dec.    2,354  1,787    808  1,063    796    751    360    221   5,437   3,914
Nov.    1,751  1,426    416    596    527    581    279    176   4,824   3,462
Oct.    1,850  1,609    536    494    669    541    355    155   6,071   3,043
Sep.    1,665  1,316    447    501    623    502    434    150   3,812   2,861
Aug.    2,316  1,370    618    669    561    565    337    149   4,671   3,812
Jul.    2,015  1,205    726    551    511    602    358    131   5,556   2,486
Jun.    1,838  1,365    682    454    571  1,098  1,220    135   2,781   2,757
May     2,079  1,321    658    516    516  1,088    637    169   2,275   3,904
Apr.    2,076  1,178    441    468    388    681    711    202   1,795   4,319
Mar.    1,626  1,716    886    625    403    778    575    161   1,978   4,040
Total  23,002 17,324  7,907  6,954  6,579  8,381  5,831  1,890  47,067  39,337

Feb 09  1,263  1,346  1,107    595    445    671    357    186   2,104   3,191
Jan 09  1,056  1,535  1,176    898    776    473    413    208   1,768   2,596
Dec 08  1,040  2,100  1,194  1,200  1,218    959    907    245   3,464   3,699
Nov 08  1,151  1,958  1,186    721    717    844    630    234   2,264   2,927
Oct 08  1,121  2,072  1,193    819    758    424    632    272   2,098   3,958
Sep 08  1,029  1,814  1,077    977  1,090    578    856    259   2,968   2,423
Aug 08  1,177  2,374  1,221  1,686  1,520    576    975    316   2,681   5,287
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Originally Posted by RX300-BV
Here's the sales trends for the Mid-sized luxury competitors with the Genesis tossed in as always.

Code:
      Genesis   MKS      M     GS     A6    S80    STS     RL  E-Class 5-Series
Feb 10  1,762  1,751    817    488    507    662    332    131   4,043   2,270
Jan 10  1,670  1,280    872    529    507    532    233    110   3,824   2,469
Dec.    2,354  1,787    808  1,063    796    751    360    221   5,437   3,914
Nov.    1,751  1,426    416    596    527    581    279    176   4,824   3,462
Oct.    1,850  1,609    536    494    669    541    355    155   6,071   3,043
Sep.    1,665  1,316    447    501    623    502    434    150   3,812   2,861
Aug.    2,316  1,370    618    669    561    565    337    149   4,671   3,812
Jul.    2,015  1,205    726    551    511    602    358    131   5,556   2,486
Jun.    1,838  1,365    682    454    571  1,098  1,220    135   2,781   2,757
May     2,079  1,321    658    516    516  1,088    637    169   2,275   3,904
Apr.    2,076  1,178    441    468    388    681    711    202   1,795   4,319
Mar.    1,626  1,716    886    625    403    778    575    161   1,978   4,040
Total  23,002 17,324  7,907  6,954  6,579  8,381  5,831  1,890  47,067  39,337

Feb 09  1,263  1,346  1,107    595    445    671    357    186   2,104   3,191
Jan 09  1,056  1,535  1,176    898    776    473    413    208   1,768   2,596
Dec 08  1,040  2,100  1,194  1,200  1,218    959    907    245   3,464   3,699
Nov 08  1,151  1,958  1,186    721    717    844    630    234   2,264   2,927
Oct 08  1,121  2,072  1,193    819    758    424    632    272   2,098   3,958
Sep 08  1,029  1,814  1,077    977  1,090    578    856    259   2,968   2,423
Aug 08  1,177  2,374  1,221  1,686  1,520    576    975    316   2,681   5,287
5 series and E class really dominate this segment
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Old 03-03-10, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Hypnotik
And of course, the one to reply to my post is you. Who else would get heated from my post. Did I say it was a trend? NO Was i surprised that it's the first time it happened? YES Read the post for what it is

Oh and the recall shouldnt affect lexus sales. Not many people know the ES and RX are made from the camry
Maybe you missed the whole part of my;
-starting the thread
-compiling most of the info
-putting it together to share
-other posts in this thread

As you can see I have quite a few posts here, so don't feel so special.

Originally Posted by RX300-BV
Here's the sales trends for the Mid-sized luxury competitors with the Genesis tossed in as always.

Thanks again for the great data!!!
 
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Default Entry Luxury Trends

Here's the sales trends for the entry luxury competitors.

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    3-Series C-Class     G       ES     CTS      IS      TL      A4     MKZ  LaCrosse    HS
Feb.   6,817   4,245   3,956   2,349   2,690   1,991   2,410   2,660   1,751   4,045    712   
Jan.   5,418   4,028   3,763   2,923   2,565   2,203   1,986   2,763   1,340   4,246  1,247
Dec.   8,963   4,849   5,167   6,531   4,180   4,153   3,167   3,555   2,190   4,581  1,980
Nov.   6,538   4,022   3,388   4,110   2,705   2,851   2,059   2,532   1,733   3,400  1,407
Oct.   8,239   4,122   3,889   4,413   2,921   3,162   2,512   3,016   1,661   3,228  1,527
Sep.   6,523   5,002   4,112   3,046   3,485   3,346   2,034   2,945   1,536   2,383  1,242
Aug.   9,833   4,253   4,903   5,629   2,584   4,855   3,003   3,823   1,621   2,816    543
Jul.   7,992   4,450   4,612   4,393   2,382   4,029   3,309   3,098   1,532   1,468
Jun.   8,347   4,583   4,062   3,918   3,193   3,465   3,018   3,644   2,114   
May    8,621   4,842   3,865   4,125   3,375   2,913   3,375   3,448   2,988  
Apr.   6,013   4,274   2,815   3,549   3,105   2,324   3,105   3,474   1,995  
Mar.   8,464   5,008   3,907   3,225   3,231   2,432   3,231   3,255   2,005  
Total 91,768  53,688  48,439  48,211  36,416  37,724  33,209  38,213  22,466  26,167  8,658

Feb 09 6,414   3,990   3,045   2,575   3,259   2,147   2,490   2,222   1,145 
Jan 09 5,013   3,032   3,509   2,971   3,418   2,400   2,317   2,058   1,561   
Dec 08 8,490   6,090   4,982   5,236   4,396   3,539   3,607   3,854   2,089
Nov 08 6,645   4,422   4,457   4,116   2,902   2,749   3,160   3,304   1,805

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Looking at the Entry Lux trends, I'd really like to know the average transaction prices for LaCrosse and what percent of those are retail sales. I believe Buick aimed the LaCrosse at the ES. I know LaCrosse can range in the upper 20's and optioned up into the low 40's with AWD and navigation.

From the raw numbers, Buick looks to have a legit contender in the entry luxury/premium marketplace.
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rx300-bv - as always, an awesome compilation of data, thank you!

and thanks to everyone else, also!!!!
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Originally Posted by RX300-BV
Looking at the Entry Lux trends, I'd really like to know the average transaction prices for LaCrosse and what percent of those are retail sales. I believe Buick aimed the LaCrosse at the ES. I know LaCrosse can range in the upper 20's and optioned up into the low 40's with AWD and navigation.

From the raw numbers, Buick looks to have a legit contender in the entry luxury/premium marketplace.
We were recently looking for a new car and cross-shopped the G37x and LaCrosse. The Infiniti dealer was eager to sell us a 2010 and offered very aggressive pricing. The Buick dealerships had limited inventory and were holding pretty firm on pricing due to high demand. We bought a 2010 ES350 due to positive experience with an '07 and some pricing flexibility from the dealer.
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