Manual Usage below 10%...
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Yea, it's super uncommon to find any 5 with the MT; I remember when I was M3 shopping, I stumbled on an M5 that had a MT ... I almost bought it. I can't imagine actually shopping for an M5 MT on the used market, you'd never find one.
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Any idea of the ratio of auto to manual M cars?
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Riding brakes down the hill is also applying to inexperienced drivers. Most automatics let you downshift manually so you can engine-brake.
To revisit your computer example: does that mean I know less about the computer becuase I don't type out the lines of code? Absolutely. When we had only DOS based machines in the house I used to know all the ins and out of how to make exactly what I wanted happen. Now that Windows has all these pretty icons you can point to and click on, I'm out of practice and I'm not nearly the user I used to be. That said, I still use lots of keyboard commands but I'm no where near as good as I used to be.
Again, not discrediting manuals completely here. It is useful to learn how to drive a manual, and in general being familiar with all of the cars components, and understanding how they work. Much like it is good to know your way around computer through command line. But driving a manual on daily basis, or using command line instead of icons, just isn't very benefitial.
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No real idea on the ratios; but I can say that the two most common things I found were SMG coupes and manual verts ... which made a manual coupe hard enough to find. I did find that SMGs were easier to come by overall than the 6MT. Now, I don't know if that's because manual drivers hold on to their cars or because way more people ordered SMGs; I suspect a combination of the two.
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I can say that the two most common things I found were SMG coupes and manual verts ... which made a manual coupe hard enough to find. I did find that SMGs were easier to come by overall than the 6MT. Now, I don't know if that's because manual drivers hold on to their cars or because way more people ordered SMGs; I suspect a combination of the two.
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6MT FTW!!!!
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Well like I said earlier, everytime I found a MT Legacy GT it was sold. One dealer told me that the buyers of the MT Legacy I had traveled two hours to purchase were eating across the street and that I should make them an offer....I didn't do it. Lesson learned, call ahead.
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What rominl describes applies to rather spirited driving, unlikely to be applied on the street. Stuff like braking before the corner, being in the right gear during the corner, and accelerating out of the corner just doesn't apply on the street. Braking through the corner and loosing control sounds like an inexperienced driver on a race track, if you drive like that on streets, you'd lose your driving license pretty quick.
Riding brakes down the hill is also applying to inexperienced drivers. Most automatics let you downshift manually so you can engine-brake.
Well, that I can agree with, although it probably doesn't have to do so much with the fact that they are driving an automatic, but because they are lousy drivers by nature. If you put them behind the wheel of a car with manual transmission, they would just cause insane traffics, and some will just give up driving all together.
But you still get your work done faster and more efficient compared to old DOS commands, right?
Again, not discrediting manuals completely here. It is useful to learn how to drive a manual, and in general being familiar with all of the cars components, and understanding how they work. Much like it is good to know your way around computer through command line. But driving a manual on daily basis, or using command line instead of icons, just isn't very benefitial.
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Well in regards to the M5 remember it debuted with SMG only. It was the AMERICAN market that was so pissed about no manual that BMW made one pretty much for our market.
Then they saddle it with electronics that cannot be fully defeated whereas in the SMG you can.
Then they saddle it with electronics that cannot be fully defeated whereas in the SMG you can.
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I don't know nearly as much about the particulars on the M5; but that's pretty cool that the American market is the reason the MT happened (I didn't know!).
Are the electronics anywhere that you might actually notice them? or are they so past where most people would be driving that it's not really an issue.
Are the electronics anywhere that you might actually notice them? or are they so past where most people would be driving that it's not really an issue.
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The way people take corners on streets, its irrelevant whether they are driving AT or MT.
nature / nurture argument right there; I'm going to argue nurture. Teach them to drive the MT and they'll be better at it (of course they must also put the phone down, not try to eat the burger while they're driving, or what ever else people like to do while driving. For those that would give up driving because they can't do it: that's probably a good thing, if you can't handle your ~3500lb machine you probably shouldn't be piloting it in the first place.
Its less work and much more practical, and safer too. Imagine trying to hill start with someone on your rear bumper - make an error, and you get into accident. Imagine trying to make a quick left turn with oncoming traffic - make an error, stall, and get t-boned. Downshift into the wrong gear, and damage your engine.