TRDFantasy

My mistake. I got mixed up with the Canadian market as a lot of Smart cars here are CDI models.

The iQ will still be more efficient than the Smart, making it the most fuel efficient gasoline engine car.

(Cj)

I dunno. All of that makes vehicles like the iQ really redundant. I'm with 1SICK in that a car that's 30% smaller than a Yaris should be 30% more fuel efficient

Yeah I know things don't work out that way technically, but perception is everything. Most that people see a car the size of a golf cart and are going to expect it to get out of this world gas mileage.

TRDFantasy

The iQ is going to get combined fuel economy that is roughly 20% better than a US Yaris.

You're right, perception is pretty much everything, that's why having a city mpg number in the mid-30s, and a highway mpg number in the 40s will do A LOT for perception. People will think the iQ is possibly a hybrid with numbers like that.

MR_F1

I wouldn't call that fully modded. Far from it. That barely has more tacked on than a corolla s or camry SE.

I'm sure something as nice looking as that would make an even better blank slate.

Will it come with Toyota Optimal drive as it does in the UK?

(Cj)

If the Focus/Fiesta and Cruze hit the magical 40mpg number, then the iQ would look a whole lot less special and practical.

-J-P-L-

How much more could you add to this car before it looks ridiculously ricey?
(excluding hidden performance mods)

It's already got 18"(?) wheels, overstated wide bodykit/bumper, custom headlights/LED fogs, ect..

Only thing missing is an over sized rear spoiler and stickers.

MR_F1

forget the wheels. Insignificant detail. Forget the LEDs in the bumper as well. I wouldn't call that a wide body kit either. Seriously?

You think that is ricey?.... lol, ok, whatever.

In any case, to answer your question, I think a lot could be done before it crossed that line. For example

TRDFantasy

That may be the case. I guess we'll see what happens.

spwolf

i wonder how disappointed they will be when they dont get those 40 mpg in real life driving ;-).

in european real life driving cycles, difference between iQ and Focus is 30%-40%.

JessePS

Should be rebadged as a Lexus. I bet that might happen, but it will be open to only LFA owners.

-J-P-L-

We're talking about all the mods on the gray iQ and then you say to ignore them? Those wheels/tires are a $2K mod. Not insignificant. And the kit is a wide body - notice the much wider fenders? The stock fenders are flat. I didn't say it was ricey but if much more was done it may start looking that way. As is, I like it.

The lime green one, which was shown last year as the speculative Scion version, I do like better. That one still, isn't much more "modded" than the gray one except that the kit is pushed a step further.

MR_F1

**sigh**

The gray iq has over fenders. That is far from a widebody kit imo.

If it makes you feel better, leave the wheels and leds off that grey iq, and that is what I think it should look like stock. Is that so hard to get through to you? The iQ stock as is, looks DRAB and my point is Scion could have done a MUCH BETTER JOB.

Capisci?

Or do you just feel like debating for no reason?

-J-P-L-

We're not debating for no reason. In fact, car forums exist for the very reason to exchange opinions and talk about cars. No?

I'm simply responding to the idea that you seem to expect $3000-$4,000 in visual mods to come stock on a $12-$13k car. Unless you want this micro-car to start at over $15K I'm not seeing your argument.

Stock cars are also purposely given a neutral inoffensive look. A lot of people don't like aggressive body kits. That's why it's left to the aftermarket.

Just to be clear, I also prefer the modded ones posted. I just believe they should be left simple for personalization and for realistic economic reasons.

lexmenow

Ugly as crap

RXSF

oh man this thing has 10 airbags? Imagine if they all deployed at the same times....no room for its passengers on the inside